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ATB Time Hands from the USBF Junior Trials

#1 User is offline   mtvesuvius 

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Posted 2009-May-17, 19:54

Scoring: MP

Playing Precision, East Deals:

1♦ - 1♠
2♥ - 3♣
3♦ - 3♠
4♦ - 4♠
Pass (X) - All Pass

ATB for this miserable -300.

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Posted 2009-May-17, 20:09

3D is a clear error, just bid 3H.

4S is a clear error, and led to this disaster. Just raise to 5D.

Since 3D did not cause this disaster at all I'd say the 4S bidder gets 100 % of the blame.
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Posted 2009-May-18, 01:03

Hi,

3D showed 6-4, 3H instead of 3D would have shown 6-5,
which comes closer?
4D showed not necessarily 7-4, it just denied min. spade
tolerance.

In the end someone needed to stop at a lower level, this is
not easy, I doubt that you can reasonably stop below the
4 level, and every contract above and including 4H wont be
a lot of fun.

So you could have bid better, but most blame goes to the gods.

With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2009-May-18, 03:21

I would advise against 3♣. The misfit warning is out. Ignore it at your own risk.

Better to stay low and bid 2♠. If you can't stand missing out a game, even at MPs, then by all means bid 3♠ (if invitational).

Over 2♠, opener will probably bid 3♦, to which you should probably PASS.
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Posted 2009-May-18, 03:29

To me 2 ♠ after 2 ♥ had been forcing, so I had used that instead of 3♣.
3♦ was a serious error, 3 ♥ shows this hand.
3 ♠ was a forced error, because you missed to show your long spades earlier.

4 ♠ was horrible. But it was impossible to find something convincing here.
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Posted 2009-May-18, 04:16

Codo, on May 18 2009, 09:29 AM, said:

To me 2 ♠ after 2 ♥ had been forcing

Right, but this is precision.
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Posted 2009-May-18, 05:33

whereagles, on May 18 2009, 07:16 PM, said:

Codo, on May 18 2009, 09:29 AM, said:

To me 2 ♠ after 2 ♥ had been forcing

Right, but this is precision.

ty... now I understand your comments about passing 3 ♦.
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Posted 2009-May-18, 08:51

The spade bidder knows he's playing opposite a singleton or void, and knows his suit cannot play opposite shortness, so 4 spades is very wrong. Not enamored with some of the other bids, but 4 spades stands out as the worst of the bunch.
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Posted 2009-May-19, 13:12

Forgot a double, Adam.
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Posted 2009-May-19, 14:07

kfay, on May 19 2009, 02:12 PM, said:

Forgot a double, Adam.

The double is there... Sadly.
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Posted 2009-May-19, 14:34

1♦ -1♠
2♥ - 3♣
3♥ - 3♠
4♦ - gulp (!) - now pass or 5♦.
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Posted 2009-May-19, 16:09

mtvesuvius, on May 19 2009, 03:07 PM, said:

kfay, on May 19 2009, 02:12 PM, said:

Forgot a double, Adam.

The double is there... Sadly.

Someone doubled 3♣
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