NV vs V at IMPs you hold:
Axx
x
A
AKQTxxxx
3♦ - (P) - ?
Partner is a Junior, and her pre-empts vary greatly...
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Evil Partner
#2
Posted 2009-May-04, 23:19
I might as well beat Ken to this. I am going to bid 3♠.
If partner bids 3NT, I can pass that.
If partner raises spades, I have finagled a help-suit slam try out of partner which I can accept. 6♣.
If partner retreats to 4♦ I will raise to 5♦, hopefully impeding a spade lead. It will be fun to watch my LHO try to simultaneously return a spade and a trump at trick 2 against 5♦.
If partner bids 4♣, I have an easy 6♣ call. I don't think I can ask for aces at this point so I can't bid 7.
Note that I can't bid 4♣, forcing, here. It's key-card for diamonds (0/1/1/2/2).
Other alternatives are just bidding 3NT (betting on some heart junk from partner or a spade lead), just bidding 5♦ (probably needs partner to get the trumps out before the opponents knock the ♠A off the table, a race she rates to lose), or just bidding 5♣ (betting on a spade trick or a spade ruff or the ♥A). Since partner has 22% of the missing non-diamonds (if holding 7 diamonds), and assuming no shift in the probability of holding any offsuit card a posteriori 3♦, I make it roughly even money that none of these things come off. Since often when partner has one trick she will have two tricks (because also holding the ♦K) I think the times I reach slam, making, put 3♠ over the top in expectancy.
At the table I wouldn't have time to work this all out, so I would have bid a simple 5♣.
If partner bids 3NT, I can pass that.
If partner raises spades, I have finagled a help-suit slam try out of partner which I can accept. 6♣.
If partner retreats to 4♦ I will raise to 5♦, hopefully impeding a spade lead. It will be fun to watch my LHO try to simultaneously return a spade and a trump at trick 2 against 5♦.
If partner bids 4♣, I have an easy 6♣ call. I don't think I can ask for aces at this point so I can't bid 7.
Note that I can't bid 4♣, forcing, here. It's key-card for diamonds (0/1/1/2/2).
Other alternatives are just bidding 3NT (betting on some heart junk from partner or a spade lead), just bidding 5♦ (probably needs partner to get the trumps out before the opponents knock the ♠A off the table, a race she rates to lose), or just bidding 5♣ (betting on a spade trick or a spade ruff or the ♥A). Since partner has 22% of the missing non-diamonds (if holding 7 diamonds), and assuming no shift in the probability of holding any offsuit card a posteriori 3♦, I make it roughly even money that none of these things come off. Since often when partner has one trick she will have two tricks (because also holding the ♦K) I think the times I reach slam, making, put 3♠ over the top in expectancy.
At the table I wouldn't have time to work this all out, so I would have bid a simple 5♣.
"It is not enough to be a good player. You must also play well." -- Tarrasch
#3
Posted 2009-May-05, 01:00
Partner is a junior NV against V.
So I expect no outside aces, no outside stuff.
I would try 5 club to play.
If this is not to play but a kind of cuebid or denial cuebid and I have no other way to show my minor, I pass.
I guess the chance that the lead a heart against 3 NT is around 75 %, so I prefer to avoid this contract.
So I expect no outside aces, no outside stuff.
I would try 5 club to play.
If this is not to play but a kind of cuebid or denial cuebid and I have no other way to show my minor, I pass.
I guess the chance that the lead a heart against 3 NT is around 75 %, so I prefer to avoid this contract.
Kind Regards
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
#4
Posted 2009-May-05, 03:59
5♣ for me too. I don't like masterminds like 3♠ that don't let me play the hand
#5
Posted 2009-May-05, 04:09
I am between 5♣ and 3NT, I like that partner might find his hand ultra useful in clubs and raise to slam once in a (long) while so 5♣ it is.
#6
Posted 2009-May-05, 06:23
Or Ultra-Worthless:
xxx
x
QJTxxxx
Jx

Anyway, thanks for the responses... Interesting reasoning on 3♠, I considered something like that, but I wasn't sure. As it turns out 3♥ probably would work, partner will bid 3♠ and LHO has KJ9xx and may not lead a ♥ now
Well, I chose 6♣, not thinking of much I could do scientifically... Down 2.
xxx
x
QJTxxxx
Jx
Anyway, thanks for the responses... Interesting reasoning on 3♠, I considered something like that, but I wasn't sure. As it turns out 3♥ probably would work, partner will bid 3♠ and LHO has KJ9xx and may not lead a ♥ now
Well, I chose 6♣, not thinking of much I could do scientifically... Down 2.
Yay for the "Ignored Users" feature!
#8
Posted 2009-May-05, 10:42
Easy 5♣ with that partner
"It may be rude to leave to go to the bathroom, but it's downright stupid to sit there and piss yourself" - blackshoe
#9
Posted 2009-May-05, 11:13
xcurt, on May 5 2009, 12:19 AM, said:
I might as well beat Ken to this. I am going to bid 3♠.
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If partner raises spades, I have finagled a help-suit slam try out of partner which I can accept. 6♣.
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If partner raises spades, I have finagled a help-suit slam try out of partner which I can accept. 6♣.
You have? All you have finalged is spade length, I don't see how that qualifies as a help suit slam try. On this hand I simply guess 5♣. If my ace were hearts instead I might try 6♣ as I could at least hope to get to partner's hand.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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