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#1 User is offline   H_KARLUK 

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Posted 2009-May-03, 13:02

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I think it's standard to open 1NT by South's hand.
Well, it also seems North's 2♣ is reasonable with 4423 and 8 HCP.
Obviously South will bid 2 ♠

Okay now i will try to assume North's options:
A pass
B 3sp - I think then South will decide to 4♠ with a maximum.

Quite surprisingly 4♠ fails. 3NT succeeds.

Any ideas please?
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Posted 2009-May-03, 13:47

They will probably not lead a club from Axxx, so it looks like 4♠ will make.
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Posted 2009-May-03, 13:56

jdonn, on May 3 2009, 09:47 PM, said:

<snip>probably<snip>

Anything is possible anytime, who knows dear.
As you pointed out to any other suit lead 4 ♠ is cold. 3NT doesn't have such a handicap.
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Posted 2009-May-03, 14:10

I don't think it's clear to invite with the N hand. This is not a very good 8 count - too many quacks. I think I'd pass 1NT not vulnerable.
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Posted 2009-May-03, 16:36

nick_s, on May 3 2009, 03:10 PM, said:

I don't think it's clear to invite with the N hand. This is not a very good 8 count - too many quacks. I think I'd pass 1NT not vulnerable.

I think it's clear to pass.
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Posted 2009-May-03, 17:19

H_KARLUK, on May 3 2009, 02:56 PM, said:

jdonn, on May 3 2009, 09:47 PM, said:

<snip>probably<snip>

Anything is possible anytime, who knows dear.
As you pointed out to any other suit lead 4 ♠ is cold. 3NT doesn't have such a handicap.

If you want a single dummy answer, they are both terrible contracts. If you want an at-the-table answer, they will both make. If you want a double dummy answer then I don't know. If you want an answer in general, south can offer 3NT over 3♠ after north invites since he is 4333.
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Posted 2009-May-05, 04:09

jdonn, on May 4 2009, 01:19 AM, said:

>snip< they are both terrible contracts. >snip<

I agree.

Thanks for all honest inputs.
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Posted 2009-May-05, 04:34

If you are worried about 3NT making just put the clubs 5-2 and voila!, now 3NT is a stupid contract as well.
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