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Intermediate 3C jump from partner

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Posted 2009-April-19, 09:33

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(1♥)-3♣!-(3♥)-???
Partner's 3♣ is an intermediate jump, around 10 to 15 pts and mostly a 6 card ♣. Normally he will not have 4 cards ♠ (2♣ by partner would have shown 4 card ♠ and better/longer ♣'s).
You play all DBL's as info, but do you have enough?
Should 3♠ be forcing here?
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Posted 2009-April-19, 12:30

Hmmm intermediate? That's more like wide ranging for no good reason (what is 2♣ followed by 3♣?).

3♠ should be forcing.

I'd pass, but am not too happy about it. 3♠ might turn out great however.
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Posted 2009-April-19, 12:41

3♠ for me.
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Posted 2009-April-19, 12:53

3S NF.
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Posted 2009-April-19, 17:28

3♠, NF or F. I have Axx in partner's suit, so i have a theoretically safe retreat should someone put a red card on the table. Maybe a neg X implying 5+ spades is a reasonable alternative.

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Posted 2009-April-19, 17:44

kgr, on Apr 19 2009, 10:33 AM, said:

Partner's 3♣ is an intermediate jump, around 10 to 15 pts and mostly a 6 card ♣.

Does this mean that 3♣ can be a 5 card suit?!

As usual, I hate the kgr competitive methods. But it doesn't matter here, I bid 3♠.
Passing looks like a good way to write down -140 instead of +420.
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Posted 2009-April-20, 00:35

I love the 2♣ treatment - do you have more details.

For 3♠ is NF so that is what I would bid.
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Posted 2009-April-20, 03:14

3♠, regardless of it being forcing or not. (F1 is probably better than NF.)
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Posted 2009-April-20, 10:44

Cascade, on Apr 20 2009, 08:35 AM, said:

I love the 2♣ treatment - do you have more details.

over 1M:
1NT: minors (4-4 or better)
2♣: 4c♠ & 5+♣
2♦: 4c♠ & 5+♦
All of the above with same strength as a 1-level overcall.
2M: 5-5 upper-lower and strong
Jump in other M: weak
2NT: 5-5 minors and intermediate
Jump in minor: intermediate and 6+ (or a good 5 card).
 
With normal 1NT bid we DBL and bid NT later. On DBL partner bids 1NT with a weak hand (8-). DBL can also be done without Clubs (ELCD).
 
We hope that with the above we can show more hands then with standard methods, but I'm not sure about it.
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