[quiddity]

Why is 6C an offer to play there on number 2? I thought trumps were agreed when we bid 3S. We didn't have a chance to cuebid clubs at the 4-level; wouldn't we show a club honor here on the way to a spade slam?

[Jlall]

quiddity, on Apr 15 2010, 01:20 PM, said:

Why is 6C an offer to play there on number 2? I thought trumps were agreed when we bid 3S. We didn't have a chance to cuebid clubs at the 4-level; wouldn't we show a club honor here on the way to a spade slam?

We have not denied 4 clubs yet, and 6C could easily be our best spot.

To take away the ability to naturally bid what could easily be our best spot (basically any time we have 4 clubs to go with our 3 spades) in order to have it available as a cuebid trying to get to 7 seems very wrong. Most of the time partner can infer we have a high club honor anyways in this auction.

I mean here if he has all the high trump honors (which we need to make 7), how could we be bidding this much with no club or spade honors, esp with RHO doubling diamonds. A lot of times just bidding 6D or 6H making a grand slam try will be enough for partner to say, "ok, he must have something in clubs otherwise this is impossible."

Even if that weren't true, I don't think it would be worth it to just give up a natural meaning for a slam bid that could be our best spot though. That must have priority over everything else.

If you're really worried about this though I recommend playing a jump to 4D in this auction over 3C as showing a double fit.

[Phil]

Jlall, on Apr 15 2010, 12:37 PM, said:

Phil, on Apr 15 2009, 06:20 PM, said:

1. Justin, how did Haspel give you the hand? I'll check the record to see if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.

Say you cue 4♥ instead of 5N (which is reasonable I think too).

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Doh!, then they just raised to 3.

I loled.

Over 3H I would start with double, what happens?

Wait, give me a minute to scrape the mold off this thread.

[Jlall]

Oh I saw april 15th I just assumed it was today!

[Pict]

4NT, 5♠ and 2♥ seem so clear to me that I'm interested to understand the other options better.

[Fluffy]

I'd double on first, doubleton heart is not great, ♠Qx is awful, if partner has doubleton heart I rather pick my 800 now.

Ok, he bids 4♠, now its time to try the slam thingie, 6♣.


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Second one really surprised by the many people who wanna play in a 4-4 fit when they know partner doesn't have ♣K. To me its a coin toss between 5♠ and 6♠. I'd never play this one in clubs when I can discard those losers on my hearts.

Partner clearly said: I wanna play slam if you don't lose 2 club tricks, well we don't so I'd bid 6♠.


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2♥ if playing NFBs, otherwise pass.

[Jlall]

Fluffy, on Apr 15 2010, 03:55 PM, said:

Second one really surprised by the many people who wanna play in a 4-4 fit when they know partner doesn't have ♣K.

umm how do we know that?

[Fluffy]

he forgot to cue clubs 2 times? bypassing them.