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Lobowolf, on Apr 20 2009, 11:20 AM, said:

Never in a million years would I institute a plan that involved or relied upon multiple successful hijackings. Just off the top of my head:
1) It would dramatically increase the chances that it wouldn't work.

you are incredibly naive to think that there had to be a reason to do it with jets... in any case, you're barking up the wrong tree... planning and executing it is not an important question, you have to start with the thermite... silly

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Winstonm, on Apr 21 2009, 06:49 PM, said:

Fire has never before been the cause of total collapse;

Leaving aside the distinct possibility that this assertion is just plain wrong, if I remember correctly, the twin towers were a unique (at the time they were built) new design. If my memory of this is correct, it's not surprising there's no experience of collapse of these types of building.

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Winstonm, on Apr 22 2009, 12:49 AM, said:

Fire has never before been the cause of total collapse; but demolition has been the cause of many total collapses; so the most likely scenario is that something that has never before happened occured 3 times in one day?

How many times where buildings hit by big airplanes before?

What about the McCormick Place Exhibition Center 1967?

http://en.wikipedia....McCormick_Place

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The 1960 exposition hall was destroyed in a spectacular 1967 fire, despite being thought fireproof by virtue of its steel and concrete construction. At the time of the fire, the building contained highly flammable exhibits, several hydrants were shut off, and the sprinklers proved inadequate. Thus the fire spread quickly and destructively, taking the life of a security guard.[3] A subsequent investigation found major flaws in the design and construction of the building, and led to a much better understanding of how modern steel and concrete structures can be vulnerable to fire.

Burning a big airplane inside a building is similar to this event.

Or the Windsor Tower in Madrid
http://en.wikipedia....indsor_Building

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The Windsor Tower (in Spanish Torre Windsor) was built in 1979 in the financial center of Madrid, Spain. This office building was 106 m high and had 32 floors of which 29 were above ground level and 3 below, thus ranking it as the eighth tallest building in Madrid (and 23rd in Spain). It was gutted by a huge fire on February 12, 2005, and partially collapsed; it has since been demolished.

Even without crashing an airplane into a building and burning tons of jet fuel a fire can collapse a building.

Or the Partial Freeway Collapse in Oakland/Emerville CA 2007:

http://www.foxnews.c...,269196,00.html

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The elevated section of highway that carries motorists from the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge to a number of freeways was destroyed early Sunday when the heat of a burning gasoline tanker truck weakened part of one overpass, crumpling it onto another.

"Burning fuel" ... "weakened structure", does that sound familiar?

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Winstonm, on Apr 21 2009, 06:49 PM, said:

Fire has never before been the cause of total collapse; but demolition has been the cause of many total collapses; so the most likely scenario is that something that has never before happened occured 3 times in one day?

Aside from the above objections (that maybe/definitely it has happened before, and that the towers were unique in their design so what has happened before may not matter) it's a bit misleading to say "3 times in one day" as though that makes it so much less likely. The towers were extremely similar and the exact same thing happened to both of them. If one collapsed due to the results of being hit by a plane, it would be pretty unbelievable if the other one didn't collapse from the exact same thing.

[Al_U_Card]

Well, WTC7 didn't have any planes hit it, and the fires were only moderate....but it did contain the SEC files on Cheney/Haliburton as well as other state documents of interest....nah, just a coincidence.....

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=LD06SAf0p9A

and the BBC did "predict" it's collapse 20 min ahead of time.