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#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2009-March-28, 06:31

You signal UDCA and play a trump contract, e.g. 4.
You lead K and partner overtakes with A and he returns A.
Dummy (your LHO) has KQJx and you have 82. What do you - playing UDCA - typicaly play. The 8 to discourage or 2 because the 8 would be interpreted as a singleton?...Or is this more a lavinthal situation?
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Posted 2009-March-28, 06:50

8 would hardly be interpreted as singleton as you preferred not to lead

So pard probably wants to give you a ruff with having a safe trick.. probably trump ace. Play small...

Else it could be singleton, then use lav
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Posted 2009-March-28, 07:06

Sounds like count to me but please post a layout, so we can consider the logic of the situation.
Partner must have a point when he cashes the A in such a situation.
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Posted 2009-March-28, 07:55

MFA, on Mar 28 2009, 03:06 PM, said:

Sounds like count to me but please post a layout, so we can consider the logic of the situation.
Partner must have a point when he cashes the A in such a situation.

Sorry, It was more intended as a general question.
In fact we play upside down attitude and standard count..Not sure if that is really compatible.
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Posted 2009-March-28, 10:48

you give count.
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Posted 2009-March-28, 10:56

Better post the entire hand (or at least North-West). It's rather strange that we are looking at a doubleton diamond when partner is laying down an Ace and dummy has KQJx. Did partner bid the suit? Did declarer? What's the club situation? Is there a singleton in dummy? Is there a threatening heart suit in dummy where declarer's diamonds could get pitched? I hate to nitpick but these things matter and I hate to generalize.

If partner bid the suit he might think we have a void and if seeking a ruff. Better give count.

If declarer bid the suit, your entry should be obvious in clubs, but I if dummy had a stiff club, then the card should carry SP implications, although this seems like a concocted situation.
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Posted 2009-March-28, 11:06

Phil, on Mar 28 2009, 06:56 PM, said:

Better post the entire hand (or at least North-West). It's rather strange that we are looking at a doubleton diamond when partner is laying down an Ace and dummy has KQJx. Did partner bid the suit? Did declarer? What's the club situation? Is there a singleton in dummy? Is there a threatening heart suit in dummy where declarer's diamonds could get pitched? I hate to nitpick but these things matter and I hate to generalize.

If partner bid the suit he might think we have a void and if seeking a ruff. Better give count.

If declarer bid the suit, your entry should be obvious in clubs, but I if dummy had a stiff club, then the card should carry SP implications, although this seems like a concocted situation.

You asked for it ;):
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I did lead K and partner took over with the A and returned the A.
I wondered what I should play in these situations when playing reserved attitude and standard count.
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Posted 2009-March-28, 13:04

kgr, on Mar 28 2009, 12:06 PM, said:

You asked for it ;):

This hand is too bizarre. What's up with the A shift? If RHO really AQJxx, --, T9xxxx, xx? This defense is necessary if pard is Kxx KJTx, A, ATxxx
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Posted 2009-March-28, 13:15

Only reason why partner would overtake to play A is when he has A singleton and wants a ruff. Yes, he can overtake with A stiff, but that doesn't mean he has to play A... So what do you signal? Count, since attitude is already clear.
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