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#1 User is offline   MarkDean 

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Posted 2009-March-24, 16:27

I have a bunch of problems from nationals, I will try to slowly leak them out.


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1 (1) dbl (3) (preemptive)
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Posted 2009-March-24, 16:54

4S
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Posted 2009-March-24, 17:09

I agree with 4, but we may have more issues at our next turn.
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Posted 2009-March-24, 17:13

4. Mostly because other bids are non forcing.. lol.
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Posted 2009-March-24, 17:32

I've thought about this now for about ten minutes and I've convinced myself that I like 5 instead of 4, because I can't see myself letting this out in less than slam. 5N really should deny a 1st round spade control.

Of course I don't know if we can make six. However, but I think there is an excellent chance that our opponents are going to sac in 6 anyway and I want to prepare pard to make an intelligent move at that point, which he should with the K / A + one or both of the rounded Queens. I also want a discount of the A in pard's evaluation.

If we are going down in slam and the opponents guess not to sac, then WD them.
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Posted 2009-March-24, 18:56

4... Now for the real problem: What to bid next round...
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Posted 2009-March-24, 18:57

I am with Phil 5
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Posted 2009-March-24, 18:59

4, I'm not worth exclusion. Even if I were forcing to slam, which I'm not, I would bid 4 then 5 or something more like that.
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  Posted 2009-March-24, 19:24

4.
If partner bid 5/, CUE 5 again. B)
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Posted 2009-March-24, 19:27

4s, hate to x with a void but tough hand.
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Posted 2009-March-24, 23:00

The biggest reason not to bid exclusion in my mind is that you might belong in diamonds.
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Posted 2009-March-25, 22:00

The player at my table (who I had heard of before, and I think is an expert) bid 4. I found that to be a massive underbid, but he won a big swing when the auction was duplicated and my teammate bid more, leading to 5 -1. Upon telling of this hand to somebody else, he also bid 4, so I thought I would check with you guys.

Partners hand:
KJxx
Jxxx
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QTx

(double would have been my third choice with that hand, but that is another thread).
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Posted 2009-March-26, 00:06

I would not have thought this was exclusion since we don't have an agreed upon suit.
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Posted 2009-March-26, 02:25

With that much spade wastage, there's a case for passing 1.
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Posted 2009-March-26, 11:16

Phil, on Mar 26 2009, 01:06 AM, said:

I would not have thought this was exclusion since we don't have an agreed upon suit.

I think that negative doubles these days should just be treated as a 1H bid. "Everyone" would see 1m p 1H 3S 5S as exclusion right?
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Posted 2009-March-26, 14:16

Phil, on Mar 26 2009, 07:06 AM, said:

I would not have thought this was exclusion since we don't have an agreed upon suit.

5 agrees hearts.
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