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They pre-empt yet again

Poll: Your call? (26 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call?

  1. Pass (16 votes [61.54%])

    Percentage of vote: 61.54%

  2. Double (1 votes [3.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.85%

  3. 3S (4 votes [15.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.38%

  4. 3NT (5 votes [19.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.23%

  5. Something absurd (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   FrancesHinden 

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Posted 2009-March-23, 04:08

Simple question
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3♣ ?


RHO opens 3C

What is your call?
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Posted 2009-March-23, 04:36

I'm passing over 3♣ with this aceless hand and a not_too_good suit. Hopefully, partner is able to balance; over double I bid 4♠, over 3♦ => 3NT, 3M I raise.
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Posted 2009-March-23, 04:36

3S.

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I ruled out 3NT fairly quickly, and I did so as well with double,
Pass is certainly better, but I think I would go into a tank, and
after that would feel forced to bid, so 3S it is.

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Posted 2009-March-23, 04:49

Pass. Our club length makes it likely pard will balance if he happens to have a couple points.

No need to risk a potentially dangerous 3♠ bid just yet.
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Posted 2009-March-23, 07:04

I also pass, we need more shape/strenght to act somehow.

Agree with Harald on everything except that I like 3NT over reopening double, it sometimes avoids a clubb ruff and an awful break, and I think we will often have combined overstrenght to justify it.
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Posted 2009-March-23, 07:45

Pass now and 3 NT over any bid from partner besides 3 ♠.
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Posted 2009-March-23, 09:00

I would also pass.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-March-23, 09:36

pass. Yes, this hand yearns to bid, and it wouldn't surprise me to find that bidding was the winner. However: short, weak spade suit, too many clubs, and not enough Aces add up to a maximum pass.
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Posted 2009-March-23, 09:54

Pass. If forced to bid it would be 3NT but I'm not quite good enough. Overcalling 3♠ is one of the worst bids I have ever seen.
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Posted 2009-March-23, 09:58

skaeran, on Mar 23 2009, 05:36 AM, said:

I'm passing over 3♣ with this aceless hand and a not_too_good suit. Hopefully, partner is able to balance; over double I bid 4♠, over 3♦ => 3NT, 3M I raise.

I say hopefully partner is not able to balance. I want the beginner 3♠ bidder at the other table to pay. :)
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Posted 2009-March-23, 10:16

i vote pass also - if partner can't balance then we probably don't belong in the auction
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Posted 2009-March-23, 11:02

Pass.
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Posted 2009-March-23, 11:42

This is a trivial pass imo. No aces is really death.
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Posted 2009-March-23, 12:09

Pass first.
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Posted 2009-March-23, 15:20

jdonn, on Mar 23 2009, 04:58 PM, said:

skaeran, on Mar 23 2009, 05:36 AM, said:

I'm passing over 3♣ with this aceless hand and a not_too_good suit. Hopefully, partner is able to balance; over double I bid 4♠, over 3♦ => 3NT, 3M I raise.

I say hopefully partner is not able to balance. I want the beginner 3♠ bidder at the other table to pay. :P

Yes, agree on that.
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Posted 2009-March-24, 07:13

Maybe this is less interesting than I thought. Or maybe the vehement opinionistas got there first...

If you bid 3S, you go two off in 5S
If you pass, and bid 4S over partner's double, you go one off in 4S
If you pass, and bid 3NT over partner's double, you make either +660 or +690
If you overcall 3NT, you make either +660, +690 or go off in 6NT if partner gets too enthusiastic.

Partner has
AQJ
QJ9
AQ9xx
xx

and hearts are 6-1, clubs are 7-1

I went for the pass then 3NT route, but I was nervous this might miss a slam. I thought it was very close to a 3NT overcall the first round but the lack of aces put me off.

We were the only pair not in spades.
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Posted 2009-March-24, 07:41

Bidding directly over 3C with this hand is a death wish, with 3S leading the pack of the " just try and beat me 1100" camp. When partner dbles in the bal seat (10+) I do not feel that 4S could ever be better than 3N really, those S take tricks in NT also.

At first I considered 4C if partner dbled and then 4S, but the club length does not argue for playing in S.
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