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#1 User is offline   rogerclee 

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Posted 2009-March-20, 21:51

IMPs, Red vs White, Fourth Seat

Kxx T9x KQx KQT9

(2) - Dbl - (P) - ?

If you bid 3 (how do you play this? for us it was a general force), partner will bid 3.
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Posted 2009-March-21, 00:10

Do you use leb?
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Posted 2009-March-21, 00:17

JLOL, on Mar 20 2009, 11:10 PM, said:

Do you use leb?

Yes.
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Posted 2009-March-21, 00:40

Guess it depends how you play it then but to me 3H denies 4+ spades so I would bid 4S now.
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Posted 2009-March-21, 00:54

Playing with somebody that would double on the rag I would, I settle for a "good" 3.

(Edit: Nah, having thought about, I wont bid 3, simply to pessimistic.)

If I feel my hand is to good for this, it is 2NT followed by 3NT, showing a gameforcing balanced hand without a stopper.

(I play virtually the same Lebensohl here, as I do in 1NT - (2) - ?)
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Posted 2009-March-21, 01:05

Obviously anyone can follow their agreements. If I don't have any useful ones I'll bid 4 over 3.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2009-March-21, 01:37

To me, 3h shows a game force with more than one place to play, and no stopper.

I actually have no interest in 3n on this hand, as it's easy to imagine 5c playing better even if partner has Ax/Kx (something as mundane as QJxx Kx Axx AJxx. Trade a small diamond for a small club, and I think I'd still rather be in 5c).

It seems right to bid 4c over 3h, assuming that's forcing. If partner bids 4d, i'll bid 5c, and I think I will get to diamonds if and only if partner has 5 of them. Of course if partner bids 4s I'll pass.

If 4c is NF, I'll just bid 5c (either now or over x, I don't really know the difference without a clear agreement about 3h). I'm willing to gamble on game.
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Posted 2009-March-21, 02:26

I make my systemic bid to show game values without either a heart stop or four spades. In most of my partnerships that's 3 (cue bids ask for a stop; 3NT bids show a stop; via Lebensohl shows the unbid major).
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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