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w vs w, last round of a Swiss teams, playing for the second place (nothing of this really matters...), you hold:
♠ATxx
♥xx
♦AJxxxx
♣x
Bidding goes:
2♦* Pass 2♠* 3♦
Pass ???
2♦ is multi (weak in a Major, strong in NT) and 2♠ means P/C with preference to hearts. 3♦ by partner is natural. What do you bid?
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Posted 2009-March-19, 02:46
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 03:54
I hope I have an agreement whether 3 ♥ shows a stopper or asks for a stopper.
Whatever my methods are, I make a try for 3 NT. When partner has no heart stopper, I go for 5 ♦.
Whatever my methods are, I make a try for 3 NT. When partner has no heart stopper, I go for 5 ♦.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 04:10
I think we should pretend that the opps have shown spades here (LHO would probably have bid 3♥ if that was his suit) so I make the cuebid of 3♠. Fortunately that is a reasonable bid even if partner doesn't assume opener to have spades.
Maybe 3♠ is an unlucky expert bid and I should just blast 5♦. Anyway, I am not going to pass 3NT or 4♠, we are going to play in diamonds.
Maybe 3♠ is an unlucky expert bid and I should just blast 5♦. Anyway, I am not going to pass 3NT or 4♠, we are going to play in diamonds.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 04:25
Since I don't know what my agreements here are, I'll just bid 5♦.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 08:15
I think you cuebid 3♠ and pull to show a good hand.
If 2♠ really means, pass 2♠ or bid 3♥ if you have hearts, when LHO does not bid 3♥, one should assume he has spades. Therefore, spades is either a Western Cue or a cue-bid clarified later.
I am never playing this in 3N, because if partner has a heart stopper, you have a good chance for slam in diamonds.
I am always bidding 4♦ over a 3 NT rebid. The most likely shape in RHO hand in the majors is 2-4, although 1-4 is possible. But partner should be able to evaluate his hand if he has a singleton or doubleton spade.
If 2♠ really means, pass 2♠ or bid 3♥ if you have hearts, when LHO does not bid 3♥, one should assume he has spades. Therefore, spades is either a Western Cue or a cue-bid clarified later.
I am never playing this in 3N, because if partner has a heart stopper, you have a good chance for slam in diamonds.
I am always bidding 4♦ over a 3 NT rebid. The most likely shape in RHO hand in the majors is 2-4, although 1-4 is possible. But partner should be able to evaluate his hand if he has a singleton or doubleton spade.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 08:45
I bid 3S as stop showing, in transit to a diamond slam potentially. There's some argument for a 4♠ fit jump too since you did not overcall 2♠ to start.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 09:30
Which law enforces opener to clarify for you that he has the hearts?
When he passes 3 ♦ it is much more difficult for you to reach 3 NT, because you have NO cuebid avaiable. So I won't take it as given that he has hearts.
And when he gets you to blast 5 diamond on any given hand, then the overall win of passing will be much higher then the beneift from bidding 3 Hearts now.
When he passes 3 ♦ it is much more difficult for you to reach 3 NT, because you have NO cuebid avaiable. So I won't take it as given that he has hearts.
And when he gets you to blast 5 diamond on any given hand, then the overall win of passing will be much higher then the beneift from bidding 3 Hearts now.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 11:29
Jan has some long notes on Multi defense. I wonder if she covers what 3M means here.
Not having firm agreements, 5♦ seems practical.
Would I really overcall 2M on KQJxxx and out? Without discussion, 3M should be natural.
Not having firm agreements, 5♦ seems practical.
Would I really overcall 2M on KQJxxx and out? Without discussion, 3M should be natural.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 11:36
If opener's pass shows spades, then I would bid 3♠.
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