[Elianna]

You hold: J Qxx 9xxx KQxxx. Partner is dealer, matchpoints, all white (if you would do something else at different vulnerability, feel free to say so).

1♣ (1♦) 2♣ (2♠);
4♣ (pass) ???

[Apollo81]

I'll accept the presumed invitation (I don't think it's very close). If partner intended it as a preempt then my hand is also fine for a continuation of the preempt.

Also I would have bid 3♣ at my previous turn.

[jdonn]

I also think bidding game is clear, whatever partner is showing it certainly includes a lot of playing strength and we have some of that ourselves. And I think 2♣ last round was perfectly normal, the hand seems far too good for 3♣.

[JLOL]

Just a preempt to me. He could cuebid something if he wanted to try for game. Pass seems clearcut.

[the hog]

Partner is showing a good C hand. I am bidding 4S.

[P_Marlowe]

Pass, but Other.

4C is certainly invitational, but I am not sure, if I
should accept the invite, at least playing MP.
11 tricks are a lot of tricks to make.

Playing IMPs, I would accept, and if I think on it,
show the spade shortage / control.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[hotShot]

If partner does not think we are playing inv. minors, I'd take 4♣ as an invitation to 5♣.

[Codo]

I had taken 3 ♦ and 3 ♠ as invitational, so he preempted.
Why do you want to have 3 ways to invite and no way to preempt?

I will bid 5 Club.

[marcD]

Pass. Do not know what partner has. Think this is a last guess hand : Partner bid 4♣ preemptive to make opponents guess. I am not the one who is supposed to guess

[oldman5757]

I'd certainly have bid 3 ♣ at my first turn. It seems right now to bid 5 ♣ whether this is an invite or advancing the preempt, but I just hate to get a minus playing 5 of a minor at MPs. Think I'll pass, and decide what to do if it comes back to me.

[kgr]

JLOL, on Mar 23 2009, 09:08 AM, said:

Just a preempt to me. He could cuebid something if he wanted to try for game. Pass seems clearcut.

I hate it when I have another bid then you. Certainly if it is clear cut.
Agree that 4C is preempt, but I would raise it to 5C. Prefer to do it now iso over 4S. ....maybe I should not expect 4S?

[JLOL]

kgr, on Mar 23 2009, 12:29 PM, said:

JLOL, on Mar 23 2009, 09:08 AM, said:

Just a preempt to me. He could cuebid something if he wanted to try for game. Pass seems clearcut.

I hate it when I have another bid then you. Certainly if it is clear cut.
Agree that 4C is preempt, but I would raise it to 5C. Prefer to do it now iso over 4S. ....maybe I should not expect 4S?

I agree with saving if they bid 4S, but they haven't bid it yet and I think there is enough of a chance that they won't. I retract my "clearcut", I really meant that 4C being preemptive was clearcut, but bidding 5C is def reasonable.

[jdonn]

I'll mention I didn't really consider what 4♣ was because I was thinking 5♣ was right either way. But definitely agree with the reasoning it should be preemptive now that you mention it.

[kenrexford]

4♣ is preemptive.

[skjaeran]

Agree that 4♣ should be preemtive. Passing or raising directly to 5♣ is a pretty close decision to me. Passing is right if opps aren't bidding 4♠, whereas 5♣ is better when they're going to bid over 4♣. I think I'll pass for now. And bid 5♣ is they bid 4♠, of course.

[fromageGB]

I think passing is clearly right in MPs. The 4♣ made life difficult for the next hand, and it worked. I think advancer would have to have a pretty rare hand to bid 4♠, so I pass. I am not going to volunteer for 5. Even if he does bid 4♠ I am not sure I am bidding 5♣. After all, opener may have as many as 4 spades and his are on top of the long suit.

I think it depends on what my initial 2♣ showed. If it was only 4 cards, the fifth together with my spade shortage means I will bid 5♣, but if partner understood I was showing 5 clubs with my first bid then I pass.