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#2
Posted 2009-March-16, 08:15
3N and 4C just seem like bad ideas. This has neither the playing strength nor the club suit to go that way.
I think I squeak out a pass, but I wouldn't really be surprised if double works well on these hands.
I think I squeak out a pass, but I wouldn't really be surprised if double works well on these hands.
#3
Posted 2009-March-16, 08:36
Pard's expectancy of 10 hcp should give me some play for 3NT. That's what I bid then.
#5
Posted 2009-March-16, 08:53
Double.
Barely...
Barely...
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#6
Posted 2009-March-16, 08:55
3NT. They're likely to have a seven-card suit at the vulnerability, making it more likely that I can keep LHO out of the game.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
#7
Posted 2009-March-16, 13:30
pass: no, I have an opening hand and partner could have an opening hand with 3 spades
3NT: no, I am too weak. and I don't have a good enough stop.
4♣: what's the point???
X: whatever is left after discounting the bad choices is the good choice.
X.
3NT: no, I am too weak. and I don't have a good enough stop.
4♣: what's the point???
X: whatever is left after discounting the bad choices is the good choice.
X.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
George Carlin
George Carlin
#8
Posted 2009-March-16, 14:23
gwnn, on Mar 16 2009, 02:30 PM, said:
3NT: no, I am too weak. and I don't have a good enough stop.
Too weak for 3NT? No, that isn't true. If you reverse your major suits then this would be a 3NT call if you were going to do anything but pass. After all, partner will not be able to bid 3NT if you double.
Given that you only have Ax in spades, you have to choose between pass and double (4♣ on QTxxx is just too much). I would double.
#9
Posted 2009-March-16, 14:54
Fair enough, I meant to say that I'm too weak to bid 3NT on Ax, something that my actual post didn't reflect at all.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
George Carlin
George Carlin
#10
Posted 2009-March-16, 15:04
I don't think it isn't a question of being too weak or too strong. 3NT might be the only way to get to a making game. On the other hand, double could lead to a good 3SX or 4H or a 4m which is a little more modest but could still be the best spot.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
#11
Posted 2009-March-16, 19:41
This was the hand:
3♠ is 140 while double led to -200 in 4♥x.
A brave 3NT nets 600. It's surprsing how often this works. Or perhaps the -800s don't get reported.
Scoring: IMP
3♠ - no - no - ?
3♠ - no - no - ?
3♠ is 140 while double led to -200 in 4♥x.
A brave 3NT nets 600. It's surprsing how often this works. Or perhaps the -800s don't get reported.
#12
Posted 2009-March-16, 23:32
For me, close between pass and 3NT. Definitely 3NT if we need a swing.
#13
Posted 2009-March-17, 02:06
Just another making or down 5 game.
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