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I am more interested in your judgement rather than exactly what you bid.
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How good is this hand? What will you bid?
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Posted 2009-March-15, 02:17
Use your methods.
I am more interested in your judgement rather than exactly what you bid.
Wayne Burrows
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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Posted 2009-March-15, 03:25
Inverted raise. Raise because clubs definitely is our best fit. Force because this hand is good enough to the 4 level if pard has a weak NT type and for 5+ if he has anything else.
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Posted 2009-March-15, 03:33
2♣.
That is, if we're playing inverted minors. If we are, then after this I will splinter 4♥ to try for slam (not joking)!
That is, if we're playing inverted minors. If we are, then after this I will splinter 4♥ to try for slam (not joking)!
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Posted 2009-March-15, 03:37
2♦, unbalanced raise. If partner steps on the brakes, I will let him of the hook. (Preferbly in 3♣.)
Might easily be wrong, but might easily be right.
Might easily be wrong, but might easily be right.
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Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
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Posted 2009-March-15, 04:33
Inverted raise, lets see what partner has to say about his hand.
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Posted 2009-March-15, 10:08
2C
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-March-15, 10:16
1♦ FNJ.
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Posted 2009-March-15, 14:58
I dont think our hand is that good, partner may easily have a weak nt with H wastage and we wont make no game and its possible that 4C goes down. This is the judgement part of my post.
For the method part of my post, I hate inverted raises so i have the choice between 2D (limit or +) or 1D. I prefer 1D followed by forcing to game if partner rebid a C/M (walsh showing 5m+4m i assume) or invitationnal with D+C over a weak nt. It tend to show 6D+4C but it still a good way to describe my hand.
The downside of 1D are ...
are slam auction will be more difficult after 1D
will play in 3D instead of 3C when partner got a minimum weak nt.
For the method part of my post, I hate inverted raises so i have the choice between 2D (limit or +) or 1D. I prefer 1D followed by forcing to game if partner rebid a C/M (walsh showing 5m+4m i assume) or invitationnal with D+C over a weak nt. It tend to show 6D+4C but it still a good way to describe my hand.
The downside of 1D are ...
are slam auction will be more difficult after 1D
will play in 3D instead of 3C when partner got a minimum weak nt.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2009-March-15, 15:04
Playing a weak 1NT, I will force to game. If I can show a void, I will do so and then respect partner's 3NT. Otherwise I sign off in 5♣.
Playing a strong NT, I will invite, for example by 2♣ and then 3♣.
Playing a strong NT, I will invite, for example by 2♣ and then 3♣.
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Posted 2009-March-15, 15:48
Certainly playing 5 card majors this would be an invite without much thought.
With the problem as given using 4 card majors, I admit to lack of experience. But if someone says the reduced odds partner has just three clubs or as many as four hearts is enough to make this a game force, I think I'd be sceptical but maybe I could be talked into it.
No matter what your methods, I feel strongly you must raise clubs now. The auction is not unlikely to become very competitive very quickly, notwithstanding the opponents both passing already. Begging LHO to overcall at the 1 level is asking for trouble. We need to show our fit asap.
With the problem as given using 4 card majors, I admit to lack of experience. But if someone says the reduced odds partner has just three clubs or as many as four hearts is enough to make this a game force, I think I'd be sceptical but maybe I could be talked into it.
No matter what your methods, I feel strongly you must raise clubs now. The auction is not unlikely to become very competitive very quickly, notwithstanding the opponents both passing already. Begging LHO to overcall at the 1 level is asking for trouble. We need to show our fit asap.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2009-March-15, 16:15
benlessard, on Mar 16 2009, 09:58 AM, said:
I dont think our hand is that good, partner may easily have a weak nt with H wastage and we wont make no game and its possible that 4C goes down. This is the judgement part of my post.
Whoops I forgot to mention that it was in a weak NT context - i thought everyone played that ;-)
I love the double negative.
Wayne Burrows
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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Posted 2009-March-15, 16:17
Cascade, on Mar 16 2009, 12:15 AM, said:
benlessard, on Mar 16 2009, 09:58 AM, said:
I dont think our hand is that good, partner may easily have a weak nt with H wastage and we wont make no game and its possible that 4C goes down. This is the judgement part of my post.
Whoops I forgot to mention that it was in a weak NT context - i thought everyone played that ;-)
I love the double negative.
Changes matters for me. In weak NT context, I force to game.
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Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
_____________________________________
We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
_____________________________________
We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
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Posted 2009-March-16, 04:16
I would game force via 2 ♣ and a later splinter. This shows a hand with 12-14 HCPS and a singelton normaly, but is as close as I can get.
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Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
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Posted 2009-March-16, 04:27
What are inverted minors ?
What is an inverted raise ?
Or am I in the wrong Forum ?
What is an inverted raise ?
Or am I in the wrong Forum ?
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Posted 2009-March-16, 05:01
jandrew, on Mar 16 2009, 10:27 AM, said:
What are inverted minors ?
What is an inverted raise ?
Or am I in the wrong Forum ?
What is an inverted raise ?
Or am I in the wrong Forum ?
Inverted minors = inverted raise.
It means that instead of
1m 2m = 6-10 hcp
1m 3m = 11-12 hcp (invitational to game)
you play it the other way around:
1m 2m = 11+ hcp, any hand that's invitational or better
1m 3m = 6-10 hcp, preemptive
Note that the inverted minors scheme allows you to bid hands that are game forcing or better, something that the classic scheme doesn't cater for and which may force you to bid 3 card suits to create a force.
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Posted 2009-March-16, 13:00
In a weak NT system I'd jump to 3♥, showing my void and GFing.
Kind regards,
Harald
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Posted 2009-March-16, 13:05
Partner's Hand:
♠ A73
♥ A1076
♦ K3
♣ A1083
♠ A73
♥ A1076
♦ K3
♣ A1083
Wayne Burrows
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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Posted 2009-March-16, 18:25
in a Weak nt context our hand is strong enough to force to game.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2009-March-20, 03:58
I play 2♦ showing either very weak in a major or invitational with both minors and that's what I'd bid.
with more usual methods I like to start with a cheap and sexy 1♦.
with more usual methods I like to start with a cheap and sexy 1♦.
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