BBO Discussion Forums: Nothing That Special, Just Kinda Cute - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Nothing That Special, Just Kinda Cute

#1 User is offline   kenrexford 

  • Brain Farts and Actual Farts Increasing with Age
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 9,586
  • Joined: 2005-September-21
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Lima, Allen County, North-West-Central Ohio, USA
  • Interests:www.limadbc.blogspot.com editor/contributor

Posted 2009-March-12, 20:54

Scoring: MP


Partner opens 2 Flannery (his idea) and you leap to 4.

Club lead.
"Gibberish in, gibberish out. A trial judge, three sets of lawyers, and now three appellate judges cannot agree on what this law means. And we ask police officers, prosecutors, defense lawyers, and citizens to enforce or abide by it? The legislature continues to write unreadable statutes. Gibberish should not be enforced as law."

-P.J. Painter.
0

#2 User is offline   hanp 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,987
  • Joined: 2009-February-15

Posted 2009-March-13, 10:01

I don't have that many entries to dummy, and I may need to take the diamond finesse besides taking 2 heart ruffs in my hand. Although it is possible that I have only 1 spade loser, this is against the odds so it seems best to take the diamond finesse immediately.

So diamond to the 10, and assuming that this holds, a heart duck.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
0

#3 User is offline   kenrexford 

  • Brain Farts and Actual Farts Increasing with Age
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 9,586
  • Joined: 2005-September-21
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Lima, Allen County, North-West-Central Ohio, USA
  • Interests:www.limadbc.blogspot.com editor/contributor

Posted 2009-March-13, 13:20

hanp, on Mar 13 2009, 11:01 AM, said:

I don't have that many entries to dummy, and I may need to take the diamond finesse besides taking 2 heart ruffs in my hand. Although it is possible that I have only 1 spade loser, this is against the odds so it seems best to take the diamond finesse immediately.

So diamond to the 10, and assuming that this holds, a heart duck.

That was my start. The diamond finesse lost, and you get a somewhat strange diamond return.

I won the diamond Ace, played a heart to the Ace, and ditched a heart on the third diamond, all following. A heart ruff, club Ace, and club ruff followed. Another heart ruff back to hand.

At this point, the opponents have one diamond in the bag, and I have two diamonds, two clubs, and a heart, plus two ruffs in hand and a ruff on dummy, for 8 tricks. I am in hand with KJ10 x on dummy, 98 xx in hand, trumps never touched.

So, the "cute" part is now obvious. You ruff a club high as a finessing safety play, playing LHO for the spade Ace. When that wins, you can play the last heart and the spade 9 on the next trick, whether underuffing or not, to guarantee the contract.

Without the high spade, RHO would have over-ruffed, spade back to LHO's Ace, and a small spade back, to lose a heart at the end.
"Gibberish in, gibberish out. A trial judge, three sets of lawyers, and now three appellate judges cannot agree on what this law means. And we ask police officers, prosecutors, defense lawyers, and citizens to enforce or abide by it? The legislature continues to write unreadable statutes. Gibberish should not be enforced as law."

-P.J. Painter.
0

#4 User is offline   hanp 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,987
  • Joined: 2009-February-15

Posted 2009-March-13, 13:22

Well done. I suspected that there was more to this hand but it was hard to predict the cute ending. :)
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
0

#5 User is offline   gnasher 

  • Andy Bowles
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,993
  • Joined: 2007-May-03
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London, UK

Posted 2009-March-14, 06:40

kenrexford, on Mar 13 2009, 08:20 PM, said:

At this point, the opponents have one diamond in the bag, and I have two diamonds, two clubs, and a heart, plus two ruffs in hand and a ruff on dummy, for 8 tricks. I am in hand with KJ10 x on dummy, 98 xx in hand, trumps never touched.

So, the "cute" part is now obvious. You ruff a club high as a finessing safety play, playing LHO for the spade Ace. When that wins, you can play the last heart and the spade 9 on the next trick, whether underuffing or not, to guarantee the contract.

Without the high spade, RHO would have over-ruffed, spade back to LHO's Ace, and a small spade back, to lose a heart at the end.

It's not obvious to me to ruff high. If the spade honours were the other way around, wouldn't you have gone down, by means of an overruff followed by a spade to the queen and another spade? In the position you were in, it looks like a guess.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
0

#6 User is offline   kenrexford 

  • Brain Farts and Actual Farts Increasing with Age
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 9,586
  • Joined: 2005-September-21
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Lima, Allen County, North-West-Central Ohio, USA
  • Interests:www.limadbc.blogspot.com editor/contributor

Posted 2009-March-14, 07:31

gnasher, on Mar 14 2009, 07:40 AM, said:

kenrexford, on Mar 13 2009, 08:20 PM, said:

At this point, the opponents have one diamond in the bag, and I have two diamonds, two clubs, and a heart, plus two ruffs in hand and a ruff on dummy, for 8 tricks.  I am in hand with KJ10 x on dummy, 98 xx in hand, trumps never touched.

So, the "cute" part is now obvious.  You ruff a club high as a finessing safety play, playing LHO for the spade Ace.  When that wins, you can play the last heart and the spade 9 on the next trick, whether underuffing or not, to guarantee the contract.

Without the high spade, RHO would have over-ruffed, spade back to LHO's Ace, and a small spade back, to lose a heart at the end.

It's not obvious to me to ruff high. If the spade honours were the other way around, wouldn't you have gone down, by means of an overruff followed by a spade to the queen and another spade? In the position you were in, it looks like a guess.

Sure. This is a guess, but a guess is nonetheless required.
"Gibberish in, gibberish out. A trial judge, three sets of lawyers, and now three appellate judges cannot agree on what this law means. And we ask police officers, prosecutors, defense lawyers, and citizens to enforce or abide by it? The legislature continues to write unreadable statutes. Gibberish should not be enforced as law."

-P.J. Painter.
0

#7 User is offline   gwnn 

  • Csaba the Hutt
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 13,027
  • Joined: 2006-June-16
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:bye

Posted 2009-March-14, 08:08

Too bad DOTW is over, this would have fit perfectly ;) wd
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
      George Carlin
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users