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What does he have? ...and your call

#1 User is offline   peachy 

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Posted 2009-March-09, 22:52

I went wrong here. Would like to see how others judge this.

Scoring: IMP

E S W N
(1D) P (1S) 2H
(Dbl!) P (3D) Dbl
(3S) ?

You are South, with expert partner, reasonable opponents. SAYC style.
East's Dbl was "support"
North's Dbl was "extras, with possible alternate strain(s)"

Please construct hand or hands for North, compatible with the bidding.
What is your call?
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Posted 2009-March-09, 22:57

I prefer a 3♥ bid instead of a Pass last time. A simple raise doesn't promise much, and we have got the hand off our chest.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2009-March-10, 00:17

655321, on Mar 9 2009, 11:57 PM, said:

I prefer a 3♥ bid instead of a Pass last time. A simple raise doesn't promise much, and we have got the hand off our chest.

OK. Now answer my questions, assuming you had to come in and sub at the stage of the bidding as diagrammed:)
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Posted 2009-March-10, 00:46

Scoring: IMP

Pass.
North has a good hand, with a singleton ♦.
Spades are 4-3 with E/W.
This will go down.
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Posted 2009-March-10, 01:41

I would bid 4 ♥. Maybe we have a double fit, maybe they will sacrifice.
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Posted 2009-March-10, 01:59

Hi,

Pass, and depending on your agreements,
I agree with Pass over the X.

I dont really care, what partner holds.

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Marlowe
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Posted 2009-March-10, 02:32

Would have bid 3♥ the first time. I have a million ways to support partner, so this hand is good enough for the weakest possible raise. It is not "safe" to bid 3♥, but look what trouble pass got us into.

Anyway, as it is, I cannot play hide and seek with support and working points.

4♥ is akin to a wtp, even though it might easily be wrong.
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Posted 2009-March-10, 02:36

dicklont, on Mar 10 2009, 08:46 AM, said:

Dealer: East
Vul: N/S
Scoring: IMP
♠ AK109
♥ AQJ32
♦ 2
♣ Q43
♠ J653
♥ 96
♦ J876
♣ A106
♠ Q87
♥ K107
♦ KQ43
♣ K87
♠ 42
♥ 854
♦ A1095
♣ J952
 

Pass.
North has a good hand, with a singleton ♦.
Spades are 4-3 with E/W.
This will go down.

If East has this hand, he has obviously lost his marbles, and I will win the match easily.
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Posted 2009-March-10, 02:48

For the opponents bidding to make sense, spades are 4-3. Additionally the only reason East is bidding 3♠ over 3♦ X is that he has only 3 ♦s, making him 3-4-3-3. May be he opened 1♦ instead of 1♣ because his ♦s were better than his ♣s. If we're right so far, partner is 4-5-2-2 with a good hand. When he doubled 3♦ he couldn't have known anything about East's distribution except his ♠ holding, so he was hoping to play 3♥ if you couldn't pass 3♦ X.
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Posted 2009-March-10, 04:20

I would double, this is going to be a slaughter.
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Posted 2009-March-11, 00:36

sathyab, on Mar 10 2009, 03:48 AM, said:

For the opponents bidding to make sense, spades are 4-3. Additionally the only reason East is bidding 3♠ over 3♦ X is that he has only 3 ♦s, making him 3-4-3-3. May be he opened 1♦ instead of 1♣ because his ♦s were better than his ♣s. If we're right so far, partner is 4-5-2-2 with a good hand. When he doubled 3♦ he couldn't have known anything about East's distribution except his ♠ holding, so he was hoping to play 3♥ if you couldn't pass 3♦ X.

Thinking about it a bit more, West is more likely to be 4=1=5=3 rather than 4=1=4=4. In other words partner can still have 4=1=5=3 distribution which makes his second double more reasonable than 4=5=2=2. In any case the only thing I wouldn't do is bid 4♥,
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Posted 2009-March-11, 04:52

I would bid 4♥. Pard obviously has a good hand and we support his suits.
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