[gwnn]

1♣-p-1♥-p
1♠-(2♦)-???

AQTx
QJ9x
Qx
xxx

all vulnerable. partner opens aggressively and RHO, your screenmate, shrugs at your question and says he just showed diamonds.

[Apollo81]

3♠.....dare I use any 3-letter acronyms?

[gwnn]

Sure Noble

I am a firm believer in saying wtp or the other one with wt.

[Echognome]

We would have bid 3♠ without the interference, so I'm afraid I'm going to also have to risk the 3 letter acronym.

[mtvesuvius]

umm... 3♠.

[655321]

Agree with everyone 3♠ WTP.

[hanp]

It is true that your diamond queen looks even less good than it did, but I think that bidding only 2S is too pessimistic.

[neilkaz]

hanp, on Mar 10 2009, 07:51 PM, said:

It is true that your diamond queen looks even less good than it did, but I think that bidding only 2S is too pessimistic.

Agreed and 3♠ from me.

[mike777]

gwnn, on Mar 10 2009, 05:12 PM, said:

1♣-p-1♥-p
1♠-(2♦)-???

AQTx
QJ9x
Qx
xxx

all vulnerable. partner opens aggressively and RHO, your screenmate, shrugs at your question and says he just showed diamonds.

ok ok 2s(8-11) and 4s......I know partner opens on pure junk....

"partner opens aggressively"

my hand has not improved beyond 8-11 and 4 spades.

yet another what does partner's opening bid promise deal.

[the hog]

3S. However I don't think I would be so rude as to LOL at rho.

[Codo]

If I discount my Q of diamonds, I have 9 HCPS and a doubleton, Partner is an agressive opener so I won't lol at someone who treats this balanced hand as a 2 ♠ rebid.

But I cannot bring myself to use this bid- which surely was the winning auction on this board and our 3 ♠ gets us overboard.

[hotShot]

I don't understand why you want to LOL your RHO, because he suddenly found a 2♦ bid.
If you think it's so bad, why don't you dbl it?
Your RHO found a way, to preempt a cheap ♣ support and your 1NT bid. He kept you from bidding 2NT without a ♦ control. He probably helped his partner to find a good lead in case you can repeat your ♥ suit. He made you and your partner assume that he has more points than his partner, so maybe you will finesse him instead of his partner.

Of cause you are not impressed since you have ♠ support for your partner.

I guess you have to bid 3♠ with that hand, but I think it's an overbid.

[ASkolnick]

I actually think 2♠ is the right call. Not just because the Q of diamonds is wasted, but because I think trumps are splitting 4-1 with the 4 spades behind the AQ.

Why did RHO suddenly jump in the auction now? Probably because he determined you had a fit. He wasn't willing to get in there with wasted values in clubs and a marginal diamond overcall.

[andy_h]

hotShot, on Mar 11 2009, 08:15 PM, said:

I don't understand why you want to LOL your RHO, because he suddenly found a 2♦ bid.
If you think it's so bad, why don't you dbl it?
Your RHO found a way, to preempt a cheap ♣ support and your 1NT bid. He kept you from bidding 2NT without a ♦ control. He probably helped his partner to find a good lead in case you can repeat your ♥ suit. He made you and your partner assume that he has more points than his partner, so maybe you will finesse him instead of his partner.

Of cause you are not impressed since you have ♠ support for your partner.

I guess you have to bid 3♠ with that hand, but I think it's an overbid.

People would LOL at RHO because he made a delayed overcall of 2♦ when he could have bid cheaply beforehand. Bidding beforehand is much safer and he gave us a round to exchange information and before having found a fit, he now decides to bid 2D when we are unlimited?

As to the OP, I would also bid 3S.

[Fluffy]

I often laugh when I find soemthing unnusual or contradictory, here I got one.

If opponent is very serious, its because he firmly believes that pass then 2♦ is the way to bid his hand. If he is not so serious and smiling bakc at me, he is probably walking the dog.

[skjaeran]

3♠, slight overbid, but that's OK with me.

[whereagles]

For some people a direct overcall is solid. So, when their overcall is not solid, they pass 1st and bid their suit the 2nd round. It's a rather silly strategy, but it's real.

Anyway, here it doesn't cause us much trouble since we have an easy 3♠ bid.

[jdonn]

Oddly enough, the two common hand types I have seen for this delayed overcall are complete opposites. Some people have lots of values and a terrible suit (AQxx A Jxxxx KJx) and some people have no values but a very good suit (xxx xx AKJxxx xx). I don't see how passing with either hand over 1♣ makes much sense, but that's just me.

[gwnn]

It may make sense to bid a very strong 6♣ 4♦ hand like this?

x xx AKJT AKQ9xx

I tried 2♠ and then passed after

1♣-p-1♥-p
1♠-2♦-2♠-3♦
3♠

But it was a horrible experience, one I don't want to relive again

Partner has a bad hand, and would pass 3♠ anyway. He made 170 after a misdefence. In the open room we got +710 after a funny auction

1♣-2♦-x-3♦
p-4♦-x-end

our RHO has

x Kxxx Txxxxxx x or so, BTW.

[mtvesuvius]

gwnn, on Mar 11 2009, 03:08 PM, said:

<snip>
our RHO has

x Kxxx Txxxxxx x or so, BTW.

ok, LOL @ rho. This is an obviously pre-emptive hand, if you are going to take a call, bid the first time.