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What's Standard? meaning for 1H-P-1N-P-4C

Poll: What is the *standard* meaning? (89 member(s) have cast votes)

What is the *standard* meaning?

  1. Natural, forcing (2 votes [2.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.25%

  2. Natural, not forcing (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Shortness; self-sufficient hearts (61 votes [68.54%])

    Percentage of vote: 68.54%

  4. Gerber (17 votes [19.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.10%

  5. No standard meaning / does not exist (9 votes [10.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.11%

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#21 User is offline   jakob_r 

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Posted 2009-March-19, 04:44

mtvesuvius, on Mar 4 2009, 06:14 PM, said:

I'm scared... There were 11 votes for Gerber, and 4 votes for "Does not exist". I think the world is coming to an end :P

i'd think two votes for "natural, forcing" is more scary
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Posted 2009-March-19, 08:27

Self-splinter. I can't think of another reasonable meaning.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 10:01

Autosplinter for me too.

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  Posted 2009-March-19, 10:55

No carrots and peas for me.

I think it's a hand that's a NAMYATS type opening with 7-8 hearts and power, slammish.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 11:26

At least nobody voted for natural, not forcing. :)

I voted for 'no standard' because while I play this as auto-splinter with most people, I would never dare make this bid with any random expert no matter how knowledgeable I thought they were for fear of disagreement. But it seems there is an 'expert standard' after all.
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Posted 2009-March-20, 09:00

If the question is "What do you think it is?", I still think the response should be Gerber.
If the question is "How should you play it?", I think a self-splinter is better,

For those who say that hand does not Exist. (Keylime is close to what I am saying)

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What do you open? Probably 1S. If partner can respond, you have the following.

With no Aces, chance for game.
With one Ace, game is probable.
With two Aces, I want to be in slam if partner has either 2 spades or the Queen of spades.
With three Aces, I want to be in slam.

However, I can't think of a 2nd type hand where this would help.
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Posted 2009-March-20, 09:38

Auto splinter is expert standard, and probably barely (just because many don't know the sequence). I would expect maybe 1 % of the tournament bridge population to play it that way though. Lets call it forum poster standard?

Also as an aside if you play strong club then this is like 66.
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