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More 2/1 questions - part 1 1S P 2H P 4H playing 2/1 game force

Poll: What is 1S P 2H P 4H? (40 member(s) have cast votes)

What is 1S P 2H P 4H?

  1. minimum limited to about 14 points including distribution (4 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  2. minimum limited to about 15 points including distribution (2 votes [5.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  3. a real dog of an opener (6 votes [15.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.00%

  4. minimum, but the upper range is more than 15 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. a picture bid with no 1st or 2nd round control in either minor (26 votes [65.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 65.00%

  6. specifically 5-4-2-2 (2 votes [5.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  7. other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   paulhar 

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Posted 2009-March-01, 12:25

Hi. You are playing 1S-2H game forcing (absolutely - a 3H rebid by responder can't be passed.) What is 4H by opener?
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Posted 2009-March-01, 12:34

would assume picture bid with a random advanced p.
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Posted 2009-March-01, 20:00

5422 or 5332 minimum
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Posted 2009-March-01, 20:29

I play it as 5422 minimum with no controls in the minors. With a decent 13/14 with 5332 or 5422 I would raise it to 3H. With a minimum 5332 I would rebid 2S then bid 3H.
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Posted 2009-March-01, 21:59

Tends to be 5422 minimum hand instead of 5431 or 5413 because splinter is also available, and no minor suits controlled. I would not jump to 4H with only three card support, but some hands it might be the best description.
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Posted 2009-March-02, 05:25

Picture bid, although it's so rare people usually let go the absence of side controls requirement.
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Posted 2009-March-02, 06:23

What is the meaning of 'picture bid'? I always thought this showed a minimum hand with 3 or 4 card fit.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2009-March-02, 06:39

Hanoi5, on Mar 2 2009, 01:23 PM, said:

What is the meaning of 'picture bid'? I always thought this showed a minimum hand with 3 or 4 card fit.

A picture bid show a specific hand. ´
In this sequence it shows values only in ♥ and ♠.

This really helps responder to decide about slam.

You can also play 1♠ - 2♥ - 4♥ as a minimum with threecard support, but then your jump is not so sharply defined and may leave responder guessing.
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Posted 2009-March-02, 07:55

A picture bid means a raise but with no shortage, or A, or K in either of the unbid suits.
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Posted 2009-March-02, 12:08

Too many years passed

3♥ slam interest
4♥ to play
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