[jahol]

The board was:

Scoring: IMP

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N-S bid Polish club with common competitive and slam bidding conventions. The bidding was:

West-------North------East-------South

...............................pass........1C(1)
pass..........1S(2)........3D..........4D
pass...........5C..........pass........6S
pass...........pass........pass

(1) - "Polish" club, 12-14 balanced, 15+ with club suit or 18+ all kinds of hands
(2) - 4+ spades, 7+ PC

One down, -10IMPs.

What is your opinion? Did North contribute more to the disaster, or South did?

[david_c]

North gets 100% of the blame for his 5♣ bid. South's bidding did not suggest clubs. By going past 4NT, North made it impossible to discover the problem.

[Codo]

Okay North was not on the same wavelength with south, he thought that 4 Diamond does not gurantee a spade fit. In this case 5 club is understandable.

Shall 4 Diamond show spade support? I am not sure, what WJ2005 says, but I think it should. Strong club hands can bid 4 club, other hands can double bid 3 NT or bid their suit.

So North is guilty.

South was sure that 5 Club showed a control, obviously the ace and denied a heart control, so 6 Spade was clear cut.

[pirate22]

some of my best results are against precision bidders -----------
south is to blame----------- np 1c--1sp-- 3d what is south excited about his Q no value at present-south works on pards 7+ points(he may have more) bid 3 spades-then North will bid 4 cl.this is not ace showing (if it is north now bids 3n/t that shld put the brakes on south--play in 3n/t or 5 spades--over 3n/t if south wants to press on he could cue 4 diam-and north responds or just bids 4 spades regards

[gwnn]

pirate22, on Feb 18 2009, 12:15 PM, said:

some of my best results are against precision bidders -----------
south is to blame----------- np 1c--1sp-- 3d what is south excited about his Q no value at present-south works on pards 7+ points(he may have more) bid 3 spades-then North will bid 4 cl.this is not ace showing (if it is north now bids 3n/t that shld put the brakes on south--play in 3n/t or 5 spades--over 3n/t if south wants to press on he could cue 4 diam-and north responds or just bids 4 spades regards

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A game on a finesse??