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simple matchpoint decision Which do you choose?

Poll: What's your bid, with the methods described (38 member(s) have cast votes)

What's your bid, with the methods described

  1. 3 Diamonds, natural and forcing (30 votes [78.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 78.95%

  2. 3N, denying stoppers in either major (8 votes [21.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.05%

  3. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   CSGibson 

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Posted 2009-February-17, 12:30

Scoring: MP

1N*-(2♥)**-?

*15-17
**Majors


You're playing matchpoints. Agreements are that 1N is 15-17, their 2♥ bid showed the majors, and that you are playing standard lebensohl. What would your bid be? Would it make a difference if this were a teams match?
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Posted 2009-February-17, 12:59

CSGibson, on Feb 17 2009, 01:30 PM, said:

Scoring: MP

1N*-(2♥)**-?

*15-17
**Majors


You're playing matchpoints. Agreements are that 1N is 15-17, their 2♥ bid showed the majors, and that you are playing standard lebensohl. What would your bid be? Would it make a difference if this were a teams match?

3♦?
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Posted 2009-February-17, 13:14

uh... How about a bid that describes your hand perfectly?

3♦.
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Posted 2009-March-01, 13:16

The reason I asked: Partner had:



And (after a 3♠ intervening bid) justifiably cue-bid hearts in looking for slam. He was very disappointed that his perfect max led us to a below average board. He was of the opinion that 3 of a minor should be some-what slam interest, and I was looking for alternative opinions.
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Posted 2009-March-01, 13:26

AFAIK, there is no implication, playing standard Lebensohl, that 3♦ in this auction shows slam interest. After all, you still haven't figured out where to play.
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Posted 2009-March-01, 13:56

If those are the methods used 3♦ is fine.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2009-March-01, 14:06

3♦ is the obvious bid. GF and showing your suit. There's no slam interest shown at this time, only a first step to find the right strain.
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Posted 2009-March-01, 21:15

It is also somewhat unlucky that 6♦ is beaten on a spade lead (and only on a spade lead).

All things considered, 3♦ is the obvious bid on the responder's hand and opener is not out of line trying for slam.
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Posted 2009-March-01, 23:18

Wow; trying for slam is really beyond me.

Should 3♦ be either slammish or promise a stop in one of the majors? I can see this, but I've never discussed it with anyone.

I'll try 3N. It looks like the obvious spot at MPs if pard stops both majors.
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Posted 2009-March-02, 04:49

If 3NT denies stoppers, I think it's a no-brainer to bid that at MPs.

Pard happened to have a very, very special hand (like 0.1% probability), and even then slam is hopeless if opps find the spade lead. Not that unlikely: LHO can well have ♠KQ, given he has a QJ heart suit.
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Posted 2009-March-02, 05:21

"Simple matchpoint decision" is an oxymoron. Anyway I will bid 3♦.

BTW 3NT denies stopper is very high on the list on conventions I do NOT want to play. I don't know how that ever got popular.
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Posted 2009-March-02, 05:53

IF you stop only one major you normally just bid it.
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