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#1 User is offline   shanbari 

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Posted 2009-February-14, 10:46

Scoring: IMP


all play standard 2/1 system.

W----N----E----S
-----------1C---P
1H---P----2C---P
3C---P----P----P

West 3C supposed to be invitational, but you can see his intention to block NS contract.

N/S missed cold 4S contract in VUL. who has more reason to make a bid, and when ?

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Posted 2009-February-14, 11:43

It should be:
1♣-1♦-Pa-1♥
2♣-Pa-Pa-2♠
Pa-4♠-All pass

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Posted 2009-February-14, 12:16

South missed his bid - 1♦
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Posted 2009-February-14, 13:46

:) how can S pass the first time with a hand clearly worth an opening bid? Either 1♦ or 1♠ are automatic. (I slightly prefer 1♠).

:rolleyes: how can N pass on his first bid ? 1♠ is clear, although I'd consider 2♥ if natural as I play it, but still prefer 1♠ getting the boss suit into the picture and noting we still can have game here.

:rolleyes: how can S pass the 2nd time? A take out double with 9 cards in the unbid suits seems totally clear.

After that, N's 2nd pass is clear, and while S could balance at the end, it seems a bit risky now and might run into trouble.

This hand is a good example of what can happen when General Whiteflag :ph34r: sits across from Colonel Whiteflag :unsure:
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  Posted 2009-February-14, 13:53

neilkaz, on Feb 14 2009, 02:46 PM, said:

:) how can S pass the first time with a hand clearly worth an opening bid? Either 1♦ or 1♠ are automatic. (I slightly prefer 1♠).

:rolleyes: how can N pass on his first bid ? 1♠ is clear, although I'd consider 2♥ if natural as I play it, but still prefer 1♠ getting the boss suit into the picture and noting we still can have game here.

:rolleyes: how can S pass the 2nd time? A take out double with 9 cards in the unbid suits seems totally clear.

After that, N's 2nd pass is clear, and while S could balance at the end, it seems a bit risky now and might run into trouble.


Exactly, 3 chances missed! :unsure:
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Posted 2009-February-14, 13:55

South needed to bid.
(1C) 1D (1H) 1S, or (1C) 1S (P) 2H[forcing], and both auctions lead to 4S.
It is a bidder's game and I think South has good reason to enter the auction. Other opportunities: After (1C) P (1H), North could have bid a natural 2H. And, after opener rebids 2C, South could enter the auction, maybe by a Dbl which should show a hand that had a flaw for takeout double first round.
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