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#1 User is offline   shevek 

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Posted 2009-February-05, 18:28

Scoring: IMP

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presumably double.
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Posted 2009-February-05, 18:33

X 3H 4H
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Posted 2009-February-05, 19:05

JLOL, on Feb 5 2009, 07:33 PM, said:

X 3H 4H

Not X 3H 3S followed by game in a major? Sorry, this stuff confuses me.
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Posted 2009-February-05, 19:14

I had a partner who always passed hands like north's--balanced, no fit, and reasonable defense.

I never really became convinced, but it works out fine here, and over the times I played with him, it might have generated more IMPs than lost (and on a hand where East is a solid citizen!). Thoughts?
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Posted 2009-February-05, 19:24

maggieb, on Feb 5 2009, 08:14 PM, said:

I had a partner who always passed hands like north's--balanced, no fit, and reasonable defense.

I never really became convinced, but it works out fine here, and over the times I played with him, it might have generated more IMPs than lost (and on a hand where East is a solid citizen!). Thoughts?

I do this at MP but not imps.
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Posted 2009-February-05, 19:24

maggieb, on Feb 5 2009, 08:14 PM, said:

I had a partner who always passed hands like north's--balanced, no fit, and reasonable defense.

I never really became convinced, but it works out fine here, and over the times I played with him, it might have generated more IMPs than lost (and on a hand where East is a solid citizen!). Thoughts?

I had a partner like that too, which I told him I didn't like but I would try it. Every time he did it it worked, every time I did it it didn't work. So we were both right.
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Posted 2009-February-06, 04:26

JLOL, on Feb 5 2009, 07:33 PM, said:

X 3H 4H

I would have bid this way too
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Posted 2009-February-06, 04:46

If you're going to play in game, do you actually want to reach four of a major? OK, I can see that on the actual layout 3NT is going to go three down, but I don't think I'd make 4H or 4S either - in either case I'd end up losing to 10 at the wrong moment.

In 3NT I expect to make if both major suit kings are onside - West's hand will be mangled by having to discard twice on diamonds - whereas bad breaks may still scupper four of a major. When someone's preempted, I tend to avoid 7-card fits.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-February-06, 08:27

I think you will make 4H a large majority of the time that both major suit kings are on plus a fair amount that only one king is on. It seems a lot better to me. But yeah 3D X is the spot single dummy
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