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#1 User is offline   H_KARLUK 

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Posted 2009-February-05, 00:21

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3♠   4♣   P   6♣
AP

Small trump led, ten won. ♦A+ruff. ♠A+ruff, partner discarded ♥5.

Another ♦ by table. How could you defend?
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Posted 2009-February-05, 04:29

I'm sorry, I have a partner who doesn't lead his singleton against a slam in the suit I pre-empted?

Anyway, it looks as if declarer has

Axxx
Kx
x
AQJxxx

(if he has a 7th club and not the HK it's just off whatever we do)

If we make the obvious play of discarding a spade (or a heart), declarer is also going to discard a spade. Partner wins and returns a heart (say), declarer wins in hand and runs trumps, making via a double squeeze.

Thus we have to ruff this trick. Declarer can't discard or we can cash a spade.
I assume he's now off, as he can't rectify the count, although it feels like one of those hands where you might have been able to make double dummy anyway.
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Posted 2009-February-05, 05:05

lol Frances you analyze hands better than almost anyone... I'm just curious but like how long did it take you to figure that out? I always imagine you just insta figuring it out lol. Do you think you would find this play at the table (I mean I guess it's not hard but I just imagine myself insta pitching a spade happily since it doesn't seem like a very important moment.)
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Posted 2009-February-05, 05:25

I did not work out the answer to this one either.

But after seeing Frances's solution, I remembered this hand from Kelsey's Killing Defence at Bridge (on looking it up, the suits have been switched and some spot cards changed).
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Posted 2009-February-05, 09:24

JLOL, on Feb 5 2009, 11:05 AM, said:

lol Frances you analyze hands better than almost anyone... I'm just curious but like how long did it take you to figure that out? I always imagine you just insta figuring it out lol. Do you think you would find this play at the table (I mean I guess it's not hard but I just imagine myself insta pitching a spade happily since it doesn't seem like a very important moment.)

I wish I could get all of these right at the table, I'd just be a bridge goddess then.

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(I mean I guess it's not hard but I just imagine myself insta pitching a spade happily since it doesn't seem like a very important moment.)


Absolutely agree.
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Posted 2009-February-05, 13:11

So I'm wondering here, we have 3 expert+ players agreeing that it is quite conceivable they wouldn't have found the defence, why then is Kelsey's book labeled 'intermediate' ? What is an expert defence book like then?
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Posted 2009-February-05, 13:15

gwnn, on Feb 5 2009, 02:11 PM, said:

So I'm wondering here, we have 3 expert+ players agreeing that it is quite conceivable they wouldn't have found the defence, why then is Kelsey's book labeled 'intermediate' ? What is an expert defence book like then?

Because it's definitely solvable if you think about it, which you will when its given in problem form. It is not that hard from that point of view, but the problem for me at least is I would probably not think deeply about this play because no warning bells are going off at all.
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Posted 2009-February-05, 13:23

FrancesHinden, on Feb 5 2009, 05:29 AM, said:

I'm sorry, I have a partner who doesn't lead his singleton against a slam in the suit I pre-empted?

Looks like partner made the only lead to set the contract...
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Posted 2009-February-05, 14:46

I can't see any reason not to ruff...
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Posted 2009-February-05, 14:49

Free, on Feb 5 2009, 03:46 PM, said:

I can't see any reason not to ruff...

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