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Crazy distribution Assess the blame?

Poll: Who's at fault for failing to bid 6S? (10 member(s) have cast votes)

Who's at fault for failing to bid 6S?

  1. North (3 votes [30.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.00%

  2. South (5 votes [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  3. Both (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Neither (2 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

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#1 User is online   awm 

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Posted 2009-February-04, 05:00

Scoring: IMP


PA - 1 - 1 - 4
4 - 5 - PA - 5
5 - PA - PA - 6
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What was N/S biggest mistake? How should they have reached 6 (doubled down two for -500 is much better than -980)? Or are they just unlucky?
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Posted 2009-February-04, 05:06

I blame South, if s/he push them to 6...

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Posted 2009-February-04, 05:08

Just unlucky
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Posted 2009-February-04, 07:29

Sacrificing at unfavorable at the 6-level is tough. If there's any blame (not much if any) then i'd blame mostly north for not bidding 2 over 1 (i wouldnt bid that either)
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Posted 2009-February-04, 10:40

given that 5 could be -500 switching E-W hands very little I don't really like that bid much. Maybe I am just resulting.

EDIT: I just saw that north bid 1 with a weak 2 hand, why did he do it?
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Posted 2009-February-04, 11:31

Fluffy, on Feb 4 2009, 11:40 AM, said:

given that 5 could be -500 switching E-W hands very little I don't really like that bid much. Maybe I am just resulting.

The other side of this is that given the vulnerability, East doesn't really need to have any high cards at all. North could have a much better hand (he is fairly minimum for an unfavorable overcall, and East is very strong for a favorable 4 bid) and 5 could be cold.

I thought a more interesting possibility for south might be to bid 5 over 4 (fit-showing hopefully) or 5 directly over 4 (forcing more of a guess on E/W). I don't think bidding 4 and passing 5 is a particularly good sequence of calls (although it is conceivable that it could "work" given the actual hands and E/W bidding).
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Posted 2009-February-04, 15:46

Anyone who is overcalling 2S red/white deserves an LOL imo.
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Posted 2009-February-04, 20:22

awm, on Feb 4 2009, 12:31 PM, said:

Fluffy, on Feb 4 2009, 11:40 AM, said:

given that 5 could be -500 switching E-W hands very little I don't really like that bid much. Maybe I am just resulting.

The other side of this is that given the vulnerability, East doesn't really need to have any high cards at all. North could have a much better hand (he is fairly minimum for an unfavorable overcall, and East is very strong for a favorable 4 bid) and 5 could be cold.

And 6 could be down? Isn't it just far too likely that EW are saving to consider saving yourself?
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