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Inauguration Day Thoughts?

#121 User is offline   kenberg 

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Posted 2009-January-26, 07:49

mike777, on Jan 25 2009, 11:43 PM, said:

OK ....I will bet the new President will have more power and Congress less in 4 years...maybe 6 months ...maybe Monday......

I agree. I think Obama actually will encourage different viewpoints but when it comes to making choices he does not strike me as a share the power sort of guy.
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Posted 2009-January-30, 06:03

Halleluja indeed Ms Kalman.

http://kalman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/29...ration-at-last/
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Posted 2009-January-30, 07:11

Looks like another challenge to Obama's authority.

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President Barack Obama's plan to suspend proceedings against Guantanamo detainees hit a snag when a military judge said it would be unreasonable to delay a hearing for the alleged mastermind of the USS Cole bombing.

Thursday's ruling by the judge, Army Col. James Pohl, creates an unexpected challenge for the new administration as it reviews how America puts suspected terrorists on trial.


Interesting that once again it is the military who is the challenger.
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Posted 2009-January-30, 07:29

Speaking of a right to a speedy trial.....or didn't Bush suspend that as well? How long was he "on trial" during the last 8 years? If it was that important they might have expedited his case...
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Posted 2009-January-30, 08:10

Certainly we wouldn't want any unreasonable delay in handling the cases of the prisoners at Guantanamo. Unless we move briskly some cases might even drag on for years. That would be embarrassing.

I trust this was a written statement. No one could say it with a straight face.
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Posted 2009-January-30, 09:27

To paraphrase another great trial lawyer...

If the evidence exists, you must resist.
If the evidence is weak, your chances are bleak.
If the evidence was fabricated, you must keep them sedated.
If the evidence is gone, you must go along.
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Posted 2009-January-30, 10:02

Winstonm, on Jan 30 2009, 08:11 AM, said:

Looks like another challenge to Obama's authority.

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President Barack Obama's plan to suspend proceedings against Guantanamo detainees hit a snag when a military judge said it would be unreasonable to delay a hearing for the alleged mastermind of the USS Cole bombing.

Thursday's ruling by the judge, Army Col. James Pohl, creates an unexpected challenge for the new administration as it reviews how America puts suspected terrorists on trial.


Interesting that once again it is the military who is the challenger.

You mean the military wants jobs? I'm shocked!

I bet if Obama tried to shut down trials run by apple farmers, and there was an apple farmer judge, that person would make a ruling to extend the trials. I don't think this would be evidence of some abuse of power or conspiracy on the part of farmers. It's just expected human behavior.
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Posted 2009-January-30, 16:22

Winstonm, on Jan 30 2009, 08:11 AM, said:

Looks like another challenge to Obama's authority.

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President Barack Obama's plan to suspend proceedings against Guantanamo detainees hit a snag when a military judge said it would be unreasonable to delay a hearing for the alleged mastermind of the USS Cole bombing.

Thursday's ruling by the judge, Army Col. James Pohl, creates an unexpected challenge for the new administration as it reviews how America puts suspected terrorists on trial.


Interesting that once again it is the military who is the challenger.

And I thought you were worried about the President having too much power, not too little...:)
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Posted 2009-January-30, 18:17

mike777, on Jan 30 2009, 05:22 PM, said:

Winstonm, on Jan 30 2009, 08:11 AM, said:

Looks like another challenge to Obama's authority.

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President Barack Obama's plan to suspend proceedings against Guantanamo detainees hit a snag when a military judge said it would be unreasonable to delay a hearing for the alleged mastermind of the USS Cole bombing.

Thursday's ruling by the judge, Army Col. James Pohl, creates an unexpected challenge for the new administration as it reviews how America puts suspected terrorists on trial.


Interesting that once again it is the military who is the challenger.

And I thought you were worried about the President having too much power, not too little...:P

You are right, Mike. But I am also concerned about too much power in any hands, including unwarranted influence from the military-industrial complex.
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Posted 2009-January-30, 18:22

jdonn, on Jan 30 2009, 11:02 AM, said:

Winstonm, on Jan 30 2009, 08:11 AM, said:

Looks like another challenge to Obama's authority.

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President Barack Obama's plan to suspend proceedings against Guantanamo detainees hit a snag when a military judge said it would be unreasonable to delay a hearing for the alleged mastermind of the USS Cole bombing.

Thursday's ruling by the judge, Army Col. James Pohl, creates an unexpected challenge for the new administration as it reviews how America puts suspected terrorists on trial.


Interesting that once again it is the military who is the challenger.

You mean the military wants jobs? I'm shocked!

I bet if Obama tried to shut down trials run by apple farmers, and there was an apple farmer judge, that person would make a ruling to extend the trials. I don't think this would be evidence of some abuse of power or conspiracy on the part of farmers. It's just expected human behavior.

IMO one would have to be naive to believe these examples are the same.
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