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A72, Q98, AQ2, QT86
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#1
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Posted 2009-January-13, 00:08
XIMPs, favorable, partner deals.
1♦-(1♠)-?
A72, Q98, AQ2, QT86
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A72, Q98, AQ2, QT86
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Posted 2009-January-13, 00:45
I dble...
given your very unusual follow up I now bid 4s rkc for hearts.....let's see if partner shows a void or what.....
given your very unusual follow up I now bid 4s rkc for hearts.....let's see if partner shows a void or what.....
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Posted 2009-January-13, 01:10
Good problem, double then 4♠ cue over pards 4♥. Lets hope its a cue I dont play 4♠ RKC♥
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Posted 2009-January-13, 01:32
I would bid 3♠ with this hand, a transfer to 3NT.
It sounds like partner would bid 4♥ over this, I would cuebid 4♠ over that.
It sounds like partner would bid 4♥ over this, I would cuebid 4♠ over that.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 02:26
I am quite surprised that 2♣ isn't an option, as I find the bid obvious.
Second guessing a little, the bidding would continue:
1♦ - (1♠) - 2♣ - (pass)
2♥ - (pass) - 2♠ - (pass)
3♥ - (pass) - 3♠ - (pass)
???
What do partner bid?
Second guessing a little, the bidding would continue:
1♦ - (1♠) - 2♣ - (pass)
2♥ - (pass) - 2♠ - (pass)
3♥ - (pass) - 3♠ - (pass)
???
What do partner bid?
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 02:28
I would try 2 ♠ 3 NT and 6 ♦, not a cunning success, but that is what I had done. (AndI still play the method, where 2 ♠ does not show a fit but is asking for a stopper)
The polish idea, 3 ♠ to show this hand is nice, but just when your partner knows that you play this.
The polish idea, 3 ♠ to show this hand is nice, but just when your partner knows that you play this.
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More system is not the answer...
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Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
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Posted 2009-January-13, 03:09
OleBerg, on Jan 13 2009, 09:26 AM, said:
I am quite surprised that 2♣ isn't an option, as I find the bid obvious.
Me too. If my partner then bid hearts twice, I'd bid 4♦ and see if he cuebid.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-January-13, 03:45
3NT now, 4♠ over 4♥.
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:
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Posted 2009-January-13, 04:03
Double first, then 6♦.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 05:03
2♠ cue raise seems boringly normal
and then 3♠ over a 3♥ continuation from partner.
Edit: Somehow I misread the hand I thought there were four diamonds. Not sure why.
2♠ is not so boringly normal anymore.
Normally I double with this hand but for some this might show four hearts. If so then 2♠ or 3♣ are possible.
and then 3♠ over a 3♥ continuation from partner.
Edit: Somehow I misread the hand I thought there were four diamonds. Not sure why.
2♠ is not so boringly normal anymore.
Normally I double with this hand but for some this might show four hearts. If so then 2♠ or 3♣ are possible.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 05:04
Agree with OleBerg and Gnasher.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 05:46
gnasher, on Jan 13 2009, 11:09 AM, said:
OleBerg, on Jan 13 2009, 09:26 AM, said:
I am quite surprised that 2♣ isn't an option, as I find the bid obvious.
Me too. If my partner then bid hearts twice, I'd bid 4♦ and see if he cuebid.
Agree more with you than with myself. If partner bids ♥'s twice, 3♠ is pointless. 4♦ is the right bid.
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Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
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Agree with Helene.
Yay for the "Ignored Users" feature!
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Posted 2009-January-13, 08:57
2♠, followed by 3♠ or 3NT. Since it goes 3♥ from pard, I think now I bid 3♠.
I find that 2♣ and 3NT also have merit.
I find that 2♣ and 3NT also have merit.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 09:05
Do the 2♠ bidders think they're showing primary diamonds, or just a good hand without anything obvious to bid?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-January-13, 09:06
Why complicate things...?
One of my all time favorites M. Lawrence taught me we should look for Major fits and find how high we could play. If there was no M fit, we should try to find out if we can play NT, the next possible game.
Maybe I am out of fashion, as some of the posts here seem to reveal, but I think 2S bids my hand in perfection. Unless I am looking for anything extraordinary I like to play this promising half stopper, so I am asking partner to bid 2N if he has one himself or to bid his hand otherwise.
If it turns out to be otherwise, I am likely to give partner my support in his suit(s)...
Even this being a problem, I always bid to the most likely hands partner can hold, I do not anticipate "freaks". If he turns out to hold one, we will bid to the best of our ability and hopefully we will land on our feet, but in the long run I want him to feel good about my bids...
Btw, bidding 2C with that hand (and that suit) is really not my cup of tea.
One of my all time favorites M. Lawrence taught me we should look for Major fits and find how high we could play. If there was no M fit, we should try to find out if we can play NT, the next possible game.
Maybe I am out of fashion, as some of the posts here seem to reveal, but I think 2S bids my hand in perfection. Unless I am looking for anything extraordinary I like to play this promising half stopper, so I am asking partner to bid 2N if he has one himself or to bid his hand otherwise.
If it turns out to be otherwise, I am likely to give partner my support in his suit(s)...
Even this being a problem, I always bid to the most likely hands partner can hold, I do not anticipate "freaks". If he turns out to hold one, we will bid to the best of our ability and hopefully we will land on our feet, but in the long run I want him to feel good about my bids...
Btw, bidding 2C with that hand (and that suit) is really not my cup of tea.
It all makes perfect sense, expressed in dollars and cents.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 10:45
rogerclee, on Jan 13 2009, 03:32 AM, said:
I would bid 3♠ with this hand, a transfer to 3NT.
It sounds like partner would bid 4♥ over this, I would cuebid 4♠ over that.
It sounds like partner would bid 4♥ over this, I would cuebid 4♠ over that.
Agree, provided I had this option. Without it, I'd bid 2♠, then 3NT. It sounds like partner would bid 4♥ over that....etc.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 10:54
I would think 2♠ as the least of the evils. I don't have 4 hearts, so I'm not going to double. I don't have 5 clubs or even 4 good ones, so not an emphasis I want to make. I don't have primary diamond support, but AQx is good support regardless, so I make that the least of the lies.
As Wayne did, when partner bids 3♥, I simply follow with 3♠ to figure out where to go from there. When partner bids 4♥ (showing a 5-6 hand), I "come alive" and bid 4♠ now as a cue.
As Wayne did, when partner bids 3♥, I simply follow with 3♠ to figure out where to go from there. When partner bids 4♥ (showing a 5-6 hand), I "come alive" and bid 4♠ now as a cue.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 11:05
I'm with the 2♣ wtp crowd. I mean, wtp??? it's forcing one round, and I can cue next round to create a gf if need be. It doesn't lie about a suit that is likely to be trump.. unlike diamonds and hearts.
I note that we weren't told, in the original post, what happens next.
If partner were to bid hearts twice now, my hand is huge, and I'd make a slam move...
2♥ 2♠
3♥ 4♦
what I do next depends on what he does next... it would be nice to have some agreements here... but we should be able to cue to the correct contract.. altho I suspect that virtually everyone (other than me and,maybe, Frances) would end up using keycard at some point.
I note that we weren't told, in the original post, what happens next.
If partner were to bid hearts twice now, my hand is huge, and I'd make a slam move...
2♥ 2♠
3♥ 4♦
what I do next depends on what he does next... it would be nice to have some agreements here... but we should be able to cue to the correct contract.. altho I suspect that virtually everyone (other than me and,maybe, Frances) would end up using keycard at some point.
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Posted 2009-January-13, 11:09
mikeh, on Jan 13 2009, 05:05 PM, said:
altho I suspect that virtually everyone (other than me and,maybe, Frances) would end up using keycard at some point.
I didn't use keycard, I didn't even cue lol, my bidding wasn't very precise but I bet the contract is good.