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#1 User is offline   rogerclee 

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Posted 2009-January-11, 22:57

Matchpoints

T9 AK KJ9xx JTxx

1 - 2
2 - 2NT
3 - 3
4 - ?

Do you agree with all your previous bidding? Now what?
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Posted 2009-January-12, 01:18

Looks like pd is 6-4-3-0. Happy to co-operate with 4D as I have don't have wasted value in clubs
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Posted 2009-January-12, 03:37

What would partner bid with 5422 with extras?, I am wondering if that hand is still possible.


Anyway if we are to play slam we better play it in diamonds, so 4 by now.
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Posted 2009-January-12, 03:41

Ok so far 4 now, though 5 could be an interesting option.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2009-January-12, 04:23

I bid 4 now. We're going to 5 or 6.

I don't like 3, I would have bid 4 right away.
I don't see the point of bidding 3 with this doubleton, with Ax, Kx, Qx it's ok.

In 2/1 2 is a slight overbid, 1NT is enough with this not so attractive 12.
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Posted 2009-January-12, 05:23

Satisfied so far. 4 might easily have been the right game.

Now I jump to 6. Diamonds might just as easily be the right denomination for slam, and partner will be resonably well placed to judge if it has to go back to spades, and might even, on a sunny day, raise to grand with the right values.

I find this would have been quite obvious at IMPS, but here at MP's it is always dangerous to play in a minor. Still, partner knows that too, and our two "small" spades is what he should expect.
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Posted 2009-January-12, 07:53

4 for me. I will cooperate, and see what partner bids now. Partner is probably 5431. If we are going to play slam, partner knows our hand and should place the contract.
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Posted 2009-January-12, 09:48

I would have bid 3 rather than 3. If partner had bid 4 over that, then I'd bid 4. After this I sign off in diamonds at every chance.
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Posted 2009-January-12, 10:22

Assuming Pard does not open pretty sound I will start with 1nt planning on rebidding 2nt(12-13) over 2h. IF pard can rebid 3d over 2nt then I rebid 4d.

OTOH if pard opens pretty sound prefer 4d over 3d on given auction.
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Posted 2009-January-12, 10:43

4. Trumps need to be set first.
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Posted 2009-January-12, 10:50

Apollo81, on Jan 12 2009, 10:48 AM, said:

I would have bid 3 rather than 3. If partner had bid 4 over that, then I'd bid 4. After this I sign off in diamonds at every chance.

I think the main benefit of 3 is that it allows pard to rebid spades with a 6=4=3=0.

4 has to show 1st round control of clubs, and not be some 'grope' on a 5=4=3=non-ace. That hand bids 4.

Still, partner is probably concerned I have wasted clubs. While I am a little concerned with the communications issues in 6, I think I need to make a move here and I will with 4. I think 4 endplays partner into the wrong decision.
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Posted 2009-January-12, 12:36

kenrexford, on Jan 12 2009, 06:43 PM, said:

4. Trumps need to be set first.

I considered 4 to be forward-going with spades, as both players have shown their lenght's. I will agree it is not obvious, but it would be my intepretation.
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Posted 2009-January-12, 14:07

OleBerg, on Jan 12 2009, 01:36 PM, said:

kenrexford, on Jan 12 2009, 06:43 PM, said:

4.  Trumps need to be set first.

I considered 4 to be forward-going with spades, as both players have shown their lenght's. I will agree it is not obvious, but it would be my intepretation.

See, that's my point.

I know what 4 means -- diamonds.

I don't know how 4 will be interpreted, whether Kickback for diamonds, a cue, a spade Last Train bid, or what.

I would expect 4 to be natural.

4NT is wildly unknown, also.

5 is weird and wildly unknown.
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Posted 2009-January-12, 14:09

I prefer 3 to 3. The problem is now if I bid 4 partner will not have a heart control and I will have no easy way to show it. I think I'm stuck bidding 4 anyway now though.
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Posted 2009-January-12, 14:46

jdonn, on Jan 12 2009, 03:09 PM, said:

I prefer 3 to 3. The problem is now if I bid 4 partner will not have a heart control and I will have no easy way to show it. I think I'm stuck bidding 4 anyway now though.

Agree with this. 3 over 3 seems clear, In the given auction, what was 3 supposed to mean ????
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Posted 2009-January-12, 15:07

5. Have to limit the hand at some point.
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Posted 2009-January-12, 23:36

What Mike777 said.
In the given auction, 4D, but I am already concerned that we are heading in the wrong direction.
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