[mike777]

Scoring: XIMP

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1S=1NT
2NT=?

[TylerE]

Pass. Assuming the system is sort of standard, 2NT here should be like 15- a bad 17. Would be helpful to know if: 1N was forcing, and B: What a 1NT opening would be (Range, 5M?, etc)

[Echognome]

Abstain. Would have bid 2♠ the round before.

[jdonn]

Why did I bid 1NT?

[fachiru]

The 1NT response was real dumb, wasns't it.
3nt now, too late for spade support.

[mike777]

TylerE, on Jan 13 2009, 12:05 PM, said:

Pass. Assuming the system is sort of standard, 2NT here should be like 15- a bad 17. Would be helpful to know if: 1N was forcing, and B: What a 1NT opening would be (Range, 5M?, etc)

1NT=14-16
1NT SEMIFORCING.
1S=2S WOULD BE AROUND 8-11 SUPPORT PTS.

[Echognome]

Can't say I like the system much then. I can answer supposing I had:

KQx
Txxx
xxx
xxx

Then I might bid 1NT and rebid spades. I mean if that is how I am valuing the hand, then why wouldn't I bid 3♠ now? (Which would be by bidding a 3♥ transfer the way I'm used to playing it.)

[Fluffy]

the 1NT bid is system for a 4-7 3 card raise. Bids avaible are 3 spades or 4 spades (system says wich one is apropiate), or a gamble to 3NT.

I think 4 spades is the correct bid.

[jdonn]

If a 1NT opening is 14-16 then is this 2NT rebid 17-18?

[Apollo81]

3NT

Hey, it's a better bid than 1NT was.

[awm]

Maybe it is also worth asking:

1♠ - 2♠ - 2NT(1) - ???

(1) Natural game try, not forcing.

That was the auction when I played this very same hand...

[mtvesuvius]

I hate my system, I hate my 1st bid and I cannot comprehend how 2NT could show 15-17. Nevertheless, if I won't support spades the first time, I won't do it the second time. 3NT.

[whereagles]

3NT will be wrong when pard's singleton is weakish. But then again, I'm willing to take that risk. 3NT then.

Incidently, with a balanced 15-17 you either open 1NT or bid a 3-card minor.

[gwnn]

I bid 3NT and 2 minutes later after having claimed the last 4 spade tricks for 5 down I will look at p and say 'see I told you I wouldn't comprehend your superior system '.

[rogerclee]

TylerE, on Jan 13 2009, 10:05 AM, said:

Assuming the system is sort of standard, 2NT here should be like 15- a bad 17.

lol no

[nige1]

mike777, on Jan 13 2009, 12:02 PM, said:

Scoring: XIMP


1S=1NT
2NT=?

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IMO 3♠ = 10, 3N = 9, 4♠ = 5, _P = 4.
Assuming 3♠ offers a choice of games.

[mike777]

nige1, on Jan 13 2009, 08:23 PM, said:

mike777, on Jan 13 2009, 12:02 PM, said:

Scoring: XIMP


1S=1NT
2NT=?

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IMO 3♠ = 10, 3N = 9, 4♠ = 5, _P = 4.
Assuming 3♠ offers a choice of games.

thank you all for your kind responses.

I could have set up this thread better......



If I said 2nt shows about 17 points, 5 spades and balanced that may have helped.

Also I think 3s over 2nt should be signoff but admit I had a hard time coming with such a hand.

and yes 1s=2s shows about 8-11 support pts since one spade can be junk.

In practice I was the one spade bidder and this thread is really about which 23-24 pt hands should be getting to 3nt and which should not (meckwell style)

in any event I found all responses interesting ty.

[gwnn]

if you open light, it's a better idea to support with lesser hands since the pre-emptive effect will be useful more often than the constructive gains.