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Double Meaning

Poll: Standard meaning for this double is: (34 member(s) have cast votes)

Standard meaning for this double is:

  1. Penalty (strong holding in opponents suit) (8 votes [23.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.53%

  2. Extra values, approximately balanced shape (4 votes [11.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.76%

  3. Extra values, takeout of the opponents suit (11 votes [32.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 32.35%

  4. Takeout, need not have extras (10 votes [29.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.41%

  5. Something else (1 votes [2.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.94%

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#1 User is offline   awm 

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Posted 2009-January-10, 20:23

1♠ - P - 1NT - 2♦ - X

What does the double mean? Does it matter whether the 1NT call was forcing?
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Posted 2009-January-11, 05:37

I usually play that doubles are for penalty when one player (of the pair) has limited his/her hand. If 1NT is 'natural' then the double is for penalties (but partner may bid if she/he has a strange hand), if 1NT is forcing then the double is for take-out; in both cases extras are needed for the double, and in the first a stack of trumps.

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Posted 2009-January-11, 07:18

Most better pairs use this dble as t/o
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Posted 2009-January-11, 08:30

If 1NT was NF:

X is penalty, with unusual distrubution, responder can pull.

If 1NT was F:

X is takeout, it shows more than a "Minimum" opener. i.e. 14+ or so. Responder should almost always reopen with a X here to protect partner.
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Posted 2009-January-11, 09:45

It doesn't matter what 1NT was, X is takeout, any opening is enough to bid it with 5431, to bid it with balanced hand you better have extras.
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Posted 2009-January-11, 09:57

100% takeout for me. And if it's approximately balanced shape, it definitely has extras. This is regardless if 1NT is forcing or not.
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Posted 2009-January-11, 19:47

I'm only used to 2/1 at this point and double is definitely takeout. I don't believe it should show anything extra, although there are likely extremely lousy hands where I would pass instead.
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Posted 2009-January-12, 10:47

jdonn, on Jan 11 2009, 09:47 PM, said:

I'm only used to 2/1 at this point and double is definitely takeout. I don't believe it should show anything extra, although there are likely extremely lousy hands where I would pass instead.

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Posted 2009-January-13, 12:15

Apollo81, on Jan 12 2009, 05:47 PM, said:

jdonn, on Jan 11 2009, 09:47 PM, said:

I'm only used to 2/1 at this point and double is definitely takeout. I don't believe it should show anything extra, although there are likely extremely lousy hands where I would pass instead.

agree

Me too
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