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Imperfection which bid is least of evils?

Poll: What to do? (45 member(s) have cast votes)

What to do?

  1. Pass (4 votes [8.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.89%

  2. 1NT (21 votes [46.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 46.67%

  3. 2C (constructive NF) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 2D (limit raise or better) (2 votes [4.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.44%

  5. 2S (18 votes [40.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.00%

  6. Something Else (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   awm 

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Posted 2009-January-09, 17:15

♠KQ
♥xxx
♦xxxx
♣AJ9x

Lefthand opponent opens 1♦. Partner overcalls 1♠. RHO passes. IMP Teams, all red.

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Posted 2009-January-09, 20:20

1NT, I suppose. When I get creative, bad things happen.
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Posted 2009-January-10, 03:50

At least I have 4 diamonds. If they were 5432 I might not like 1NT as much, but they could be 9763 or similar.

Besides which, partner doesn't have to get too carried away with this bid. 2S might encourage partner too much on too few trumps.
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Posted 2009-January-10, 06:15

Hi,

I wont pass, I wont bid 2C, I wont sell this hand
as a limit raise or better.

That leaves 1NT or 2S, ... most likely I would go
with 1NT, I rejected 2S, because it is fairly wide
ranging and I am super max. for the bid.
In my partnership, I would have the option to show
a constructive raise.

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Marlowe
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Posted 2009-January-10, 07:25

I like 2S. KQ support and an Ace, not too shabby. 2nd choice would be 1NT I guess.
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Posted 2009-January-10, 07:38

1NT. Yuck.
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Posted 2009-January-10, 08:27

1NT has appeal however I think I would prefer 2S. I appreciate this is a but heavy in a way, but I am well placed if partner makes any sort of move. 1N second choice, no H card in addition to no true D stop seems a little too much of a flaw that can be better handled with a different bid. I think this particular position would depend on how much my pard likes to bid. It seems to me that either partner or LHO has a rather good hand. If partners idea of overcalling consists of strong hands the simple raise will get some reaction and I will be delighted to co-operate. Some times it is not so bad to have a tad extra when other flaws are apparent.
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Posted 2009-January-10, 09:32

1NT is my bid, running diamonds won't defeat 1NT, but playing on a 4-2 fit will be costly.

With a aprtner whoom I can guess has 100% 5 spades I might bid 2♠, but probably not even then.
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Posted 2009-January-11, 08:31

Fluffy, on Jan 10 2009, 04:32 PM, said:

1NT is my bid, running diamonds won't defeat 1NT, but playing on a 4-2 fit will be costly.

With a aprtner whoom I can guess has 100% 5 spades I might bid 2♠, but probably not even then.

You've got ♠KQ yourself, MY partners might overcall 1♠ on a 4-bagger, but not with me holding KQ.

I'm bidding 1NT, but 2♠ might easily prove to be better.
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Posted 2009-January-11, 08:33

skaeran, on Jan 11 2009, 09:31 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Jan 10 2009, 04:32 PM, said:

1NT is my bid, running diamonds won't defeat 1NT, but playing on a 4-2 fit will be costly.

With a aprtner whoom I can guess has 100% 5 spades I might bid 2♠, but probably not even then.

You've got ♠KQ yourself, MY partners might overcann 1♠ on a 4-bagger, but not with me holding KQ.

AJ9x is a viable 1 level overcall.
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Posted 2009-January-11, 08:35

mtvesuvius, on Jan 11 2009, 03:33 PM, said:

skaeran, on Jan 11 2009, 09:31 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Jan 10 2009, 04:32 PM, said:

1NT is my bid, running diamonds won't defeat 1NT, but playing on a 4-2 fit will be costly.

With a aprtner whoom I can guess has 100% 5 spades I might bid 2♠, but probably not even then.

You've got ♠KQ yourself, MY partners might overcann 1♠ on a 4-bagger, but not with me holding KQ.

AJ9x is a viable 1 level overcall.

I don't think that's a good idea.
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Posted 2009-January-11, 09:40

You are right, it makes it much less likelly, I still overcall AJ109 at least, and maybe AJ10x if I its the only way to enter the auction, but not to worry.
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Posted 2009-January-11, 11:48

When this hand came up in a team match, partner held:

♠AT8xx
♥Axxx
♦KT
♣xx

At one table our hand bid 2♦ (limit raise or better) which lead to a contract of 2♠. This went two down (-200) when spades broke 6-0!

Win five imps when at the other table our hand bid 2♣ (constructive NF) and overcaller passed. The 4-2 fit went four down (-400).
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Posted 2009-January-11, 12:33

And it looks like 1NT does nicely here. -1 probably :unsure:.
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Posted 2009-January-11, 19:22

mtvesuvius, on Jan 11 2009, 01:33 PM, said:

And it looks like 1NT does nicely here. -1 probably :unsure:.

Make sure you send partner the memo before he rebids 2♥.
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Posted 2009-January-11, 20:10

jdonn, on Jan 11 2009, 08:22 PM, said:

mtvesuvius, on Jan 11 2009, 01:33 PM, said:

And it looks like 1NT does nicely here. -1 probably B).

Make sure you send partner the memo before he rebids 2♥.

and I correct back to 2♠. Oh well. :unsure:
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Posted 2009-January-11, 20:14

mtvesuvius, on Jan 11 2009, 09:10 PM, said:

jdonn, on Jan 11 2009, 08:22 PM, said:

mtvesuvius, on Jan 11 2009, 01:33 PM, said:

And it looks like 1NT does nicely here. -1 probably B).

Make sure you send partner the memo before he rebids 2♥.

and I correct back to 2♠. Oh well. :unsure:

I give you credit for a good try. At least you were in the least bad contract for a moment, better than many of us. :)
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Posted 2009-January-12, 10:12

Raise to 2♠ -- IMO that is the most normal call.
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Posted 2009-January-12, 10:17

1NT absolutely automatic. Stoppers are for kids. Real men bid NT :)
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Posted 2009-January-12, 10:27

2♠ but then Im not a real man
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