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(1♥) - 2♣ - (P) - 2♥
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Autosplinter? Yes or No...
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Posted 2009-January-08, 16:53
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Posted 2009-January-08, 16:57
Shogi and I have the generic agreement that in contested auctions we only splinter in opps' suit. So I voted no. Hard to think of any other meaning for this bid, though. It probably should be an autosplinter after all.
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Posted 2009-January-08, 17:07
Yes
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Posted 2009-January-08, 17:28
No
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2009-January-08, 17:35
Are new suits by advancer forcing? If yes, autosplinter seems okay. If not, how do we know advancer has clubs?
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Posted 2009-January-08, 17:45
I have the same agreements than helene, but I still think this is auto splinter because there is nothing else worth playing.
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Posted 2009-January-08, 17:55
gwnn, on Jan 8 2009, 06:28 PM, said:
No
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Posted 2009-January-08, 18:17
splinter, long clubs, short spades, good hand......btw what is an autosplinter?
I assume 2h promises a rebid except over 3c.
I assume 2h promises a rebid except over 3c.
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Posted 2009-January-08, 18:20
mike777, on Jan 8 2009, 07:17 PM, said:
btw what is an autosplinter?
It's a splinter for your own suit. I don't believe it is the correct terminology here since it would only apply when your suit has not been supported, like 1♠ p 1NT p 4♣. 2♥ shows club support.
I also have the agreement we can only splinter in the opponents' suit, so this is natural to me. I think it might be logical to play this game forcing but 2♠ 3♣ 3♠ as not game forcing (or even forcing perhaps.)
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Posted 2009-January-08, 18:27
I assume with a big spade/club hand I Michaels.
Sidenote plug for Astro cuebids....1h=2h=4 spades and longer clubs if that is the case here.
Sidenote plug for Astro cuebids....1h=2h=4 spades and longer clubs if that is the case here.
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Posted 2009-January-08, 19:05
Yes.
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Posted 2009-January-09, 09:07
The hands were:
I probably should have cuebid 4♠ now, then it's easier. (But that might have gotten passed
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Where did we go wrong (other than being on the same page about the autosplinter)?
(Edit: 7♣ was -1 ofc)
I probably should have cuebid 4♠ now, then it's easier. (But that might have gotten passed
)Where did we go wrong (other than being on the same page about the autosplinter)?
(Edit: 7♣ was -1 ofc)
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Posted 2009-January-09, 09:23
mtvesuvius, on Jan 9 2009, 10:07 AM, said:
Where did we go wrong (other than being on the same page about the autosplinter)?
That's kind of like saying "other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?"
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Posted 2009-January-09, 11:55
IMO you went wrong when you bid 2♣ instead of 3.
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Posted 2009-January-09, 12:20
I would consider this a splinter, not having the aforementioned agreement.
Ignoring the whole natural/splinter thing, I don't like the 4♥ bid. You shouldn't skip the ♦ cue, and probably should be bidding 4♣ regardless of whether you think 3♠ was natural or not.
Ignoring the whole natural/splinter thing, I don't like the 4♥ bid. You shouldn't skip the ♦ cue, and probably should be bidding 4♣ regardless of whether you think 3♠ was natural or not.
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(1♥) - 2♣ - (P) - 2♥
(X) - 3♠ - (P) - 4♥
(X) - 6♣ - (P) - 6♠
(X) - 7♣ - (P) - P
(X) - All Pass