[jillybean]

Or just another partner, a different approach?

Dealer: West Vul: None Scoring: IMP

♠ T5 ♥ 432 ♦ K93 ♣ KT754

West North East South

 Pass  1♠    Pass  ?  


part1. Playing 2/1, whats your bid?

[manudude03]

1NT, will decide what to do when I see next round.

[Echognome]

Perhaps it will be more interesting to see what the next round of bidding brings, because I cannot understand anything other than 1NT this round.

[Winstonm]

Surely this is a unaminous 1N response?

[mike777]

jillybean2, on Jan 6 2009, 03:29 PM, said:

Or just another partner, a different approach?

Dealer: West Vul: None Scoring: IMP

♠ T5 ♥ 432 ♦ K93 ♣ KT754

West  North East  South

 Pass  1♠    Pass  ?  


part1.  Playing 2/1, whats your bid?

1nt planning on rebidding 2s over 2c/2d/2h

[keylime]

1Nt. Awaiting further developments.

[skjaeran]

Get to part two please, 1NT is painstakingly obvious on the first round.

[neilkaz]

skaeran, on Jan 6 2009, 02:54 PM, said:

Get to part two please, 1NT is painstakingly obvious on the first round.

Yes

[mtvesuvius]

1NT wtp?... Next please.

[Rossoneri]

1NT, next.

[awm]

1NT is clear.

Over a 2♣ rebid, I would pass. This will be at least a 5-3 fit and rates to play better than 2♠ most of the time. While partner could have extras, my lousy hand will not make game opposite a hand in the 16-18 range so there is no need for a "courtesy" correction.

Over a 2♦ rebid, 2♠ seems clear. Note that 2♦ could be a three-card suit, and will often be a four-card suit, so I expect to do somewhat better on average in 2♠. If partner rebids something over 2♠ (natural, extras) I am usually passing although I'd raise 3♣ to 4♣ (or pull 3♥ to 3♠).

Over a 2♥ rebid it is a tossup between pass and 2♠. Passing wins when partner has a 5-5, or when partner was going to try for game over my correction and we get to stop low. 2♠ wins when partner has a 6-4 or when the 5-2 outplays the 4-3 (fairly often unless hearts 3-3).

Over a 2♠ rebid pass is a huge standout.

Over a 2NT rebid, I would pass. Game is possible but not really that likely to be good. At vulnerable I try 3NT.

Over a 3♣ rebid I'll try 4♣. Occasionally partner will have only two or three clubs, but often we have a real fit and 5♣ could easily be the best game. If partner removes 4♣ to 4♠ (showing long spades and quite possibly fewer than four clubs) I will pass.

Over 3♦ I am correcting to 3♠ (no obvious fit, but may as well give partner space to describe his hand).

Over 3♥ I'm bidding 3NT (both minors stopped).

Over 3♠ I would pass (this shows something like 15+ to 18- and I don't really have game values opposite that even though a "perfect hand" for partner will make game).

[Fluffy]

I don't know about any system where I wouldn't respond 1NT, but maybe you can gamble a pass if you feel like it.

[babalu1997]

Fluffy, on Jan 6 2009, 04:48 PM, said:

I don't know about any system where I wouldn't respond 1NT, but maybe you can gamble a pass if you feel like it.

PASS, ALERTED, AS SHOWING 2 + SPADES

AT MOST 1 QUICK TRICK, 2 TRUMPS

FORCING NO TRUMP, FOLLOWED BY 2 SAPDES MEANS 1,5 QUICK TRICKS, 2 TRUMP

THE WAY FORCING NO TRUMP WAS INVENTED.

[jillybean]

Dealer: West Vul: None Scoring: IMP

♠ T5 ♥ 432 ♦ K93 ♣ KT754

West North East South

 Pass  1♠    Pass  1NT
 Pass  2♥    Pass  2♠
 Pass  4♠    Pass  Pass
 Pass  

Partner said 'only 6hcp no danger to passing, biding 1nt and 2♠ later shows more'
just different styles I guess.

[kenrexford]

Huh?

1NT is obvious.

The only conceivable question is on the rebid, and only because the scoring is IMP.

Had partner rebid 2♣, then I see merit to a practical pass. The spade 10 is big, though. Pass would not be unreasonable.

Had partner rebid 2♦, and had this promised a 4-card suit, and were partner able to rebid 3♦ with an intermediate 5-5 or something, then pass has some merit there as well. Otherwise, clear 2♠.

After 2♥, then 2♠ seems clear unless (1) Opener could have bid 3♥ with a 5-5 intermediate hand and (2) you are playing Reverse Flannery, and then only if the Reverse Flannery was not a mini. If the RF range were, say, intermediate, such that 1♠...2♥ is a very weak sequence, then pass makes sense.

[jillybean]

Hi Ken,
I was hoping to pass a 2♣ rebid but thought 2♠ was ok,
we werent playing reverse flannery or any rexford type add-ons.

here is the full hand;

Scoring: IMP

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[mike777]

For what its worth I thought all the bidding was fine.

1s=1nt
2h=2s
4s

[whereagles]

jilly, pard's comment was just a ready-made excuse for his unsucessful flyer

[kenrexford]

In looking at both hands, bidding a hopeless 4♠ at IMPs is sound bridge.

Responder has a good cause to rebid 2♠.

Opener has a good cause to blast 4♠ and hope for the best.

The defense has a good reason to expect a push on the board.

Opener has no good cause to blame a normal result on partner.

It doesn't take much tweaking of your hand possibilities to make 4♠ makeable. Heck, with a diamond lead and no heart switch, you could even make 4♠ on this layout. I could imagine J-duck-duck-Queen in diamonds, club Ace, spade to 10, club King, hearts 3-3. A mistake, but IMP's are made on mistakes when the possible legit layout is not there.

[helene_t]

Ken, reverse Flannery is a response, not an opening. Please clarify it as "Rexfordian modified Flannery" so we know what we are talking about.

Anyway, you could have passed 2♥, but 2♠ is probably the mainstream bid.