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Yuck Rebid after 3C

Poll: 1C-1S-3C-??? (38 member(s) have cast votes)

1C-1S-3C-???

  1. Pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. 3D (9 votes [23.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.68%

  3. 3H (2 votes [5.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

  4. 3S (23 votes [60.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.53%

  5. 3NT (1 votes [2.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.63%

  6. 4C (3 votes [7.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.89%

  7. 5C (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   manudude03 

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Posted 2009-January-05, 11:57

Scoring: XIMP

1♣-1♠
3♣

What now?


This was on BBO with pickup, what's your bid after partner jumps to 3C?
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Posted 2009-January-05, 12:05

4♣, I am afraid if I bid 3♠ p will raise on xx or maybe even a singleton. After 4♣, p can still bid 4♠ if he has three of them.
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Posted 2009-January-05, 12:22

3d
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Posted 2009-January-05, 13:23

Pard has a big one-suiter in clubs. I don't want to force the issue. I bid 4♣.
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Posted 2009-January-05, 14:07

I am bidding a natural and forcing 3♠.

Partner won't raise to 4♠ with xx while also holding good stoppers in the red suits.

Only if partner has some 2=1=3=7 or 2=3=1=7 (or possibly 2=2=2=7) will 4♠ be likely to be significantly inferior to 4♠.
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Posted 2009-January-07, 10:22

If partner's suit was diamonds (and my minors were swapped) I would bid a natural and forcing 3♠. Here I think that bid should show better spades since we can bid 3♦ (which is what I'd do).
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Posted 2009-January-07, 10:25

3♦ for me. I think 3♠ now will lead to (a few) too many lousy spade contracts. But it's not a bad bid either.
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Posted 2009-January-07, 17:52

Cascade, on Jan 5 2009, 03:07 PM, said:

4♠ be likely to be significantly inferior to 4♠.

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Posted 2009-January-07, 18:23

HeavyDluxe, on Jan 5 2009, 07:23 PM, said:

Pard has a big one-suiter in clubs.  I don't want to force the issue.  I bid 4♣.

But you are forcing the issue - 4C is forcing.

3S is the least bad bid in my view. Even if partner has xx he won't bid 4S except as a last resort. If partner's spades are anything other than xx, 3S will usually work out OK.

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Posted 2009-January-07, 18:36

I agree

The most probable game is 3N

The second most probable game is 4♠

The least probable game is 5♣

Indeed, I venture to say that there will be very few hands on which 5♣ makes without bringing in the spade suit... and since we have no red entries, and short clubs, that requires partner holding some help for us in that suit (or a very lucky lie, which will be at least as helpful in spades as it is in clubs).

Put another way: if partner bids 3N over 3♠, we are going to be delighted.. that club Q will be invaluable.

And he can't bid 3N over 4♣... nor will we find 4♠ on a 5-2 fit.
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Posted 2009-January-09, 20:26

Thanks for replies, both hands:

Scoring: XIMP

1C-1S
3C-3S
3NT-P

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Posted 2009-January-10, 09:19

3♣ is a big underbid.
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Posted 2009-January-10, 10:31

Fluffy, on Jan 10 2009, 10:19 AM, said:

3♣ is a big underbid.

Yes... 2NT is probably better here.
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Posted 2009-January-10, 12:53

I told myself I wouldn't respond to bidding questions LOL.

3♠. Sure I'd like 6, but I think this gives us the most options without misleading partner.

Pass is strangely appealing.
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Posted 2009-January-10, 13:05

mtvesuvius, on Jan 10 2009, 11:31 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Jan 10 2009, 10:19 AM, said:

3♣ is a big underbid.

Yes... 2NT is probably better here.

As an opening bid.
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Posted 2009-January-11, 08:52

mtvesuvius, on Jan 10 2009, 05:31 PM, said:

Fluffy, on Jan 10 2009, 10:19 AM, said:

3♣ is a big underbid.

Yes... 2NT is probably better here.

But even that is an underbid. You either open 2NT or rebid 3NT.
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