I think I'd start with 3♦ and then spades so that I can give pard a chance to bid spade tolerance. This way I can deny heart tolerance.
FWIW, I play 3♠ jump rebid here as highly invitational.
comments please
#21
Posted 2008-December-31, 10:40
"Champions aren't made in gyms, champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision. They have to have last-minute stamina, they have to be a little faster, they have to have the skill and the will. But the will must be stronger than the skill. " - M. Ali
#22
Posted 2008-December-31, 14:37
Does no one actually play weak jump shifts (or intermediate) any more? Am I missing some new trend? Apparently...
I mean, for about maybe 5 years, everyone in my area with whom I play has switched to 1♥-P-2♠ as constructive-intermediate (8-11 or so), where 1♠...3♠ would be GF. For maybe 20 years before that, everyone I knew played 1♥-P-2♠ as weak, rendering 1♠...2♠ as 8-11 or so, and 1♠...3♠ as GF.
I'd have to go back to when girls had coodies to remember strong jump shifts, where 1♠...3♠ was NF.
I mean, for about maybe 5 years, everyone in my area with whom I play has switched to 1♥-P-2♠ as constructive-intermediate (8-11 or so), where 1♠...3♠ would be GF. For maybe 20 years before that, everyone I knew played 1♥-P-2♠ as weak, rendering 1♠...2♠ as 8-11 or so, and 1♠...3♠ as GF.
I'd have to go back to when girls had coodies to remember strong jump shifts, where 1♠...3♠ was NF.
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#23
Posted 2008-December-31, 21:34
jillybean2, on Dec 30 2008, 02:15 AM, said:
kenrexford, on Dec 31 2008, 03:37 PM, said:
I'd have to go back to when girls had coodies to remember strong jump shifts, where 1♠...3♠ was NF.
Just to be different
1♥ (_P) 1♠ (2♣)
2♥ (_P) 3♦ (_P)
3♠ (_P) 4♥ AP
#24
Posted 2008-December-31, 21:51
The only help I can think of is if South elects to pass 2C - which IMO isn't that bad of choice with the Qx of clubs. Discounting the club Q the hand is then pretty minimal with not good shape and only a fair heart suit - so maybe pass to alert partner to the minimum values is O.K.
Then you get:
1H-P-1S=2C
P-P-X-P
2H-P-2S-P
3S-P-?
Then maybe I'm dreaming....
Then you get:
1H-P-1S=2C
P-P-X-P
2H-P-2S-P
3S-P-?
Then maybe I'm dreaming....
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