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Wrong strain Misbid & misplay (1)

Poll: Opponents lead 2 rounds of diamonds/ You (8 member(s) have cast votes)

Opponents lead 2 rounds of diamonds/ You

  1. Ruff, lead ten of spades? (3 votes [37.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.50%

  2. Ruff, cash ace of spades. lead small spade? (5 votes [62.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 62.50%

  3. Ruff, cross to ace of clubs, lead small spade? (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Ruff, cross to ace of clubs, lead knave of spades? (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Ruff, cross to ace of hearts, lead small spade? (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Ruff, cross to ace of hearts, lead knave of spade? (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Discard a heart (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   nige1 

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Posted 2008-December-28, 15:52

Scoring: IMP


One of the deals that I misbid and misplayed,
last night, at St Andrew Bridge Club.
We bid..
(_P) _P (_P) 1♥
(2♦) _X (_P) 2♠
(_P) 4♠ AP
  • Would you have reached the superior 4♥ game?
  • Against your 4♠,
    LHO led ♦7 ♦2 ♦A ♦K
    RHO returned ♦J and LHO played ♦5
    Please plan the play.

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Posted 2008-December-28, 16:54

I would just ruff, play a heart up to the A, and play a spade to my ten.
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Posted 2008-December-28, 18:36

I Was gonna suggest ruff, ♥AQ, then ♠A and hearts, with need north to have ♠Hxx and hearts 2-2 or ♠xxx with hearts 1-3 pr 2-2. But I think what maggie said is more likelly to succeed.
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Posted 2008-December-28, 19:13

BTW, it is easy to play in hearts, just bid 4♥ instead of 2♠, 7-4 hardly ever plays better in the 4-4 fit than the 7-1.
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Posted 2008-December-30, 08:42

nige1, on Dec 28 2008, 04:52 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP


One of the deals that I misbid and misplayed,
last night, at St Andrew Bridge Club.
We bid..
(_P) _P (_P) 1♥
(2♦) _X (_P) 2♠
(_P) 4♠ AP
  • Would you have reached the superior 4♥ game?


  • Against your 4♠,
    LHO led ♦7 ♦2 ♦A ♦K
    RHO returned ♦J  and LHO played ♦5
    Please plan the play.

Fluffy, on Dec 28 2008, 08:13 PM, said:

BTW, it is easy to play in hearts, just bid 4♥ instead of 2♠, 7-4 hardly ever plays better in the 4-4 fit than the 7-1.
  • Bidding: I admire Fluffy's 4♥ rebid, because, in old fashionded Acol it implies a ♠ fit. We were playing SAYC, however, so I was less sure about the meaning of 4♥.
  • Play: You probably need ♠ 3-2 and a 2-2 or 3-1 ♥ break.
    • Crossing to dummy and finessing ♠ fails when RHO has ♠Qxx or ♠Kxx. And opponents force you again in ♦.
    • Leading ♠A & another fails when either opponent has ♠KQx.
    • There was one vote for ducking a ♠. IMO that is the best line but it would be easier to spot if you held neither the ♠J nor ♠T. It seems to work against any 3-2 ♠ break.
      • If opponents continue ♦, you ruff, cash ♠A, cross to ♥A, lead a third round of trumps and claim.
      • If opponents lead anything else, you cash ♠A and run ♥. An opponent still has a ♠ and can ruff in with it at any time; but you are left with a trump entry to your remaining ♥
    In fact, RHO has ♠Kx so all lines should lead to success. I failed, when a cow flew by, later in the play :(

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Posted 2008-December-30, 08:47

Fluffy was suggesting to ignore the spade fit, his 4♥ bid just shows hearts.
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Posted 2008-December-30, 13:07

cherdano, on Dec 30 2008, 09:47 AM, said:

Fluffy was suggesting to ignore the spade fit, his 4♥ bid just shows hearts.
I understood Fluffy's point; and there is merit in that view; but I fear that this ♥ suit may not be robust enough to insist on as trumps (even opposite a vold) when you know you have a ♠ fit.
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