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Posted 2008-December-29, 07:50

Nice example of a signaling problem by Philip Alder here.
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Posted 2008-December-29, 08:45

y66, on Dec 29 2008, 08:50 AM, said:

Nice example of a signaling problem by Philip Alder here.

Should East play partner not to have signaled by dropping the K under the A with KJTx
or not to have signaled by dropping the J under the A with JT7x?

IMO, the latter is far more likely
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Posted 2008-December-29, 08:50

Nice point. But a little extreme to get it wrong in practice.

Seasoned partnerships have a huge advantage when deciding if partner's carding could be trusted, or when he might be assumed to have been lazy.

EDIT: I'm not talking about tempo issues; just the level of signalling.
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Posted 2008-December-29, 09:05

qwery_hi, on Dec 29 2008, 03:45 PM, said:

y66, on Dec 29 2008, 08:50 AM, said:

Nice example of a signaling problem by Philip Alder here.

Should East play partner not to have signaled by dropping the K under the A with KJTx
or not to have signaled by dropping the J under the A with JT7x?

IMO, the latter is far more likely

After partner played the 8 and 9, the jack, ten and 7 are of equal rank....and you did lead the 6.

Partner knows you can afford to play the jack from JT76 or the king from KJT6, but you could also hold KJ76(x) or KT76(x), from which holdings you'd follow with the 7 (or x).
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Posted 2008-December-29, 09:14

skaeran, on Dec 29 2008, 10:05 AM, said:

qwery_hi, on Dec 29 2008, 03:45 PM, said:

y66, on Dec 29 2008, 08:50 AM, said:

Nice example of a signaling problem by Philip Alder here.

Should East play partner not to have signaled by dropping the K under the A with KJTx
or not to have signaled by dropping the J under the A with JT7x?

IMO, the latter is far more likely

After partner played the 8 and 9, the jack, ten and 7 are of equal rank....and you did lead the 6.

Partner knows you can afford to play the jack from JT76 or the king from KJT6, but you could also hold KJ76(x) or KT76(x), from which holdings you'd follow with the 7 (or x).

Your are right. When south plays the Ace, K J T 7 6 are all of equal rank.

When partner plays the 4, he is either

1. Showing a broken holding
2. Forgot to signal correctly.

My point was that if he forgot to signal correctly, he is more likely to be holding
JT74 rather than KJT4
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