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Posted 2004-May-03, 14:52

There seems to be a set of conditions under which a log is not output from a teaching table - unfortunately I'm not sure what they are ;)

My teaching session this evening did not create a log. I was playing in three positions for the first 5 boards, and then kibitzed for the last 4 boards. No log was created.

The chat log is fine, all the comments are there :P

My options are to log all hands. I'm running the 3.7.3 release, but I'm not sure its purely down to this.

Sorry I cannot provide any definitive bug.

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Posted 2004-May-03, 15:21

Deals are not added to a log file unless a result is achieved.

Many teachers do not go to the end of play or claim when
they present deals at teaching tables (especially when the
lesson is about the bidding).

I suspect that this is what happened.

Yes, we could improve things in this area and I suspect we
will eventually. Most likely the next change to the log files
will involve having an option to automatically insert chat
into the appropriate places of the bidding/play sequence
of each deal. This would be a nice thing for both teaching
tables and for vugraph.

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Posted 2004-May-03, 16:37

Fred I suspect that there is something else going on here.

I get requests from time to time from people who have tried to log the session but it has not worked.

e.g. In the session that I hosted on Friday with you and Roland in the 2/1 club I received a request for the logs from someone who said they were there all of the time. I carefully claimed on every deal to get a log and the log saved successfully for me but the person who emailed me said that their log contained only one hand.
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Posted 2004-May-03, 16:41

Leaving the table and then returning (either intentionally or
via a disconnect) would result in the type of thing the student
in question describes, Wayne.

I was at the table the entire time and my log file was perfect.

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Posted 2004-May-04, 11:26

fred, on May 3 2004, 10:21 PM, said:

Deals are not added to a log file unless a result is achieved.

Many teachers do not go to the end of play or claim when
they present deals at teaching tables (especially when the
lesson is about the bidding).

I suspect that this is what happened.


This is quite possible although I did know that finishing a hand was important. This specific session did have lots of replaying the hand, i.e., getting to trick 12, winding back to trick 3, forward to trick 7, back to trick 3 again :) and then on to the end.

Is it necessary to finish every hand, or just the last one?

fred, on May 3 2004, 10:21 PM, said:

Yes, we could improve things in this area and I suspect we
will eventually. Most likely the next change to the log files
will involve having an option to automatically insert chat
into the appropriate places of the bidding/play sequence
of each deal. This would be a nice thing for both teaching
tables and for vugraph.

Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com


This would be great ... I hadn't realised that chat and play could be synchronised in the logs. Unexpectedly there does appear to be a demand from my regulars to see the sessions they've missed :D

Thanks,

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Posted 2004-May-04, 11:36

Only board in which either a claim is made or all 52
cards are played out (or a passout) will appear in the
log files.

If you leave the table (either or purpose or because of
a disconnection) a log file of all the hands you have seen
for which results were achieved will be created. If you
then rejoin the table, a new log file will start to be built.

At least this is how it is supposed to work. It is possible
that there is a bug in this area, but I doubt it.

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