[gwnn]

ATxxx
Qxx
AKQx
A

none, imps we deal

1♠-4♣-4♠-p
5♣-p-5♥-x

[maggieb]

pass of course

[jdonn]

I like pass, but I can live with almost anything but 5♠. What in blazes would make someone want to sign off at this point?

[H_KARLUK]

Minimum 6♠ indeed wld be elegant- I see 19 HCP at hand with a jumping partner

1) 4♣ of lefty at least 8 cards weak
2) I may find ♠KQxx♥AJTx (If I find 4times low ♣ and say ruffed on lead I still have ♥ finesse chance.)
3) Say ♠KQxx but ♥Axxx. Prospects are again bright when ♦3 and ♣2 pieces. (Even with 4times♦ and ♣ singleton.) Fortuna, the Goddess of luck, is more likely to help those that take risks, take action, and develop their skills proactively. It was first written by Terence, who lived in the second century BC, in his play "Phormio". I think in English it's equivalance is Fortune favours the brave.

Back to my analyse, just need positional factor advantage. Slipping ♥K will bring th contract home. Bear in mind I can live comfortably with ♠KQxx ♥Kjxx-♣xx♦xxx or ♠KQxx ♥Kjx-♣xx♦xxxx. I liked ♥ suit doubled by my righty (4♣ bidder's p), now I believe my seat has positional advantage.


Did I misguess again? Sorry, I am either liar of my partner or a hopeless daydreamer. I still hide and can't wait to use my favorite color dark blue RD card if 6♠ doubled. Seems sometimes I can't help myself I always liked adrenaline at table, it's sportive. Just a slam dunk.

[Hanoi5]

Forgot passing was the perfect way to find out if pd has Ace or void in hearts. I'll play 6 anyway, so I don't regret it that much (unless we go down).

[Fluffy]

redouble ourselves is not ridicoulous, even if partner will believe something better in hearts, it shows good diamonds, and therefore the need of something extra in trumps.

Are we gonna give up if partner fails to redouble?, what is the % of LHO having exactly 1 heart?

The more I think of it, the more I like redouble, partner won't bid 7 without ♠A, and I hope he won't beleive our first round control if he has the Ace (but maybe LHO will?).

Anyway this is easy to say at the forums, at the table I'd pass and accept the rejection.

[jdonn]

Fluffy, redouble would promise first round heart control

[Echognome]

It's certainly possible that Gonzalo plays redouble different from other people. It's then hard to compare choice of action on that basis.

I wouldn't ReDbl for that reason as in all of my partnerships, ReDbl would promise 1st round control in hearts. So I would pass and see what partner does.

[gwnn]

Gonzalo considered a psychic redouble.

For all who pass, what do you do over partner's continuations?

[kgr]

I play that REDBL shows 1st control, pass denies 2nd control.
I pass, but will have a difficult decision when partner bids 5♠

[655321]

I woud just Pass to see if partner can redouble to show first round control. If he instead bids 5♠ I raise to 6. Partner did bid 4♠, and he cue bid over 5♣. I can't imagine not bidding 6♠ now - probably only a heart ruff will beat it.

I don't mind an immediate 6♠ bid either. If partner has first round heart control, unless this is a void we know the ♥K is offside, so to bid 7 we will need to diagnose 13 tricks without the hearts. This is not so likely.

[whereagles]

I prefer 4NT the round before, even with the wide open hearts (there's a good chance he has A or K there). That would allow me to find out about the trump situation.

But ok, now I have some guessing to make, so 6♠.

[kenrexford]

As an aside, a tool/concept that is relevant here and that may interest some:

When someone doubles some call in a slam-going sequence,
And his partner will be on lead,
And you have some holding where switching declarer will make the doubler on lead,
And that may kill or reduce the effectiveness of that lead,
Then the person who might want to suggest an alternative strain,
Uses transfers.

(The "WAAATU Convention?" LOL)

In this situation, for example, this would allow Opener to now bid 6♣ (or later 6♣) to show diamonds. 6♦ might play better than 6♠, under the circumstances.

Were Opener to instead pass, for instance, then Responder's 6♦ would not be a transfer.

[H_KARLUK]

kenrexford, on Dec 18 2008, 02:17 AM, said:

(The "WAAATU Convention?"  LOL)

I strenuously object. To me another HEAVEN SENT SLAM.

This post has been edited by H_KARLUK: 2008-December-17, 18:31

[Fluffy]

I should state it clearlier:

Redouble shows first heart round control. But not only that!

-It shows diamond control
-It shows we need something else for slam (trumps??)

Suddenly redouble has become a highly accurate description of our hand.

[Cascade]

Fluffy, on Dec 18 2008, 01:30 PM, said:

I should state it clearlier:

Redouble shows first heart round control. But not only that!

-It shows diamond control
-It shows we need something else for slam (trumps??)

Suddenly redouble has become a highly accurate description of our hand.

Except you don't have the first round heart control.

I just pass denying a heart control and still showing interest.

I am going to bid slam whatever as we might make with as little as ♠ KQ and ♥ K and partner will have more than this. So my pass is in case we have a grand.

[brianshark]

Rdbl just shows first round heart control. No more. No less.

It doesn't necessarily show a ♦ control. It doesn't show that we don't have enough for slam. It just shows ace or void in ♥s.

So I obviously pass gratefully since I'm about to find out if pard has 1st round control. If he does, I'll bid 6♦. If not, 6♠. I am somewhat worried that even if pard has the ace, we have a slow heart loser that we can't get rid of. But I have to try for grand.

[Fluffy]

brianshark, on Dec 18 2008, 10:04 AM, said:

It doesn't necessarily show a ♦ control. It doesn't show that we don't have enough for slam. It just shows ace or void in ♥s.

Come on brian, if nobody controls diamonds, why don't you sing off?, looking for partner to bid 6?

[brianshark]

Sorry, right you are. I missed that partner denied a ♦ control.

[H_KARLUK]

Fluffy, on Dec 18 2008, 01:46 PM, said:

brianshark, on Dec 18 2008, 10:04 AM, said:

It doesn't necessarily show a ♦ control. It doesn't show that we don't have enough for slam. It just shows ace or void in ♥s.

Come on brian, if nobody controls diamonds, why don't you sing off?, looking for partner to bid 6?

There are some deals one must dictate before it's too late. Otherwise "one should bid but who" question is inevitable.