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(1♦) - 1♥ - (pass) - 3♥
(-X-) - Pass - (4♠) - Pass
(6♠) - Pass - Pass - Pass
Sorry if this is too much like Hans hand, but this is how it happened at the table.
Your lead?
Edit: 2♥ bid changed to 3♥
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Another lead problem. Sorry Han
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Posted 2008-November-26, 05:50
(1♦) - 1♥ - (pass) - 3♥
(-X-) - Pass - (4♠) - Pass
(6♠) - Pass - Pass - Pass
Sorry if this is too much like Hans hand, but this is how it happened at the table.
Your lead?
Edit: 2♥ bid changed to 3♥
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Posted 2008-November-26, 06:01
♣9
Leading ♠ is foolish.
Leading ♥ could help declarer make an impossible finesse when dummy is void.
Leading ♦ might help declarer develop the diamonds.
That leaves ♣. Maybe partner holds KJ behind the dummy's AQ.
Leading ♠ is foolish.
Leading ♥ could help declarer make an impossible finesse when dummy is void.
Leading ♦ might help declarer develop the diamonds.
That leaves ♣. Maybe partner holds KJ behind the dummy's AQ.
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Posted 2008-November-26, 09:30
A difference is that the auction was understandable in my post. Here it is not.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-November-26, 09:44
♠. Unlikely any ♣ tricks we have are going anywhere.
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Posted 2008-November-26, 10:30
han, on Nov 26 2008, 05:30 PM, said:
A difference is that the auction was understandable in my post. Here it is not.
Thx. Hope the edit helped.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Posted 2008-November-26, 10:40
Even with the edit, the auction makes little sense.. but, before the edit, I was writing that the opps must be wired.
I am having trouble with any hand that can jump to 4♠ and not squeak out 1♠.
And then the 6♠ call is weird as well, because opener must have the same doubts about what 4♠ shows.
Maybe AKJx void AKQxx KJxx opposite xxxxxx Axx x xxx?
I am having trouble with any hand that can jump to 4♠ and not squeak out 1♠.
And then the 6♠ call is weird as well, because opener must have the same doubts about what 4♠ shows.
Maybe AKJx void AKQxx KJxx opposite xxxxxx Axx x xxx?
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Posted 2008-November-26, 11:01
mikeh, on Nov 26 2008, 06:40 PM, said:
Even with the edit, the auction makes little sense.. but, before the edit, I was writing that the opps must be wired.
I am having trouble with any hand that can jump to 4♠ and not squeak out 1♠.
And then the 6♠ call is weird as well, because opener must have the same doubts about what 4♠ shows.
Maybe AKJx void AKQxx KJxx opposite xxxxxx Axx x xxx?
I am having trouble with any hand that can jump to 4♠ and not squeak out 1♠.
And then the 6♠ call is weird as well, because opener must have the same doubts about what 4♠ shows.
Maybe AKJx void AKQxx KJxx opposite xxxxxx Axx x xxx?
Well, the 4♠ bidder is a junior, but the 6♠ bidder is a very competent player.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Posted 2008-November-26, 12:00
By junior, do you mean bad?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-November-26, 16:28
han, on Nov 26 2008, 08:00 PM, said:
By junior, do you mean bad?
Not an underbidder, sensible declarer.
Maybe 4♠ is a little strange. Nonetheless, you have to find a lead.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
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Posted 2008-November-26, 16:38
Seems like a club to me.
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Posted 2008-November-26, 16:41
♣9. ♦3 was my second choice, but even if PD ruffs I can't see the second defense trick (though my partner should have it).
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2008-November-26, 16:54
I'm gonna lead a heart on grounds that the likely holding for opener is a 4-1-4-4 with a 19-20 hcp, or maybe a 4-2-4-3 if he's an overbidder.
He can of course have 5 diamonds but I find that more unlikely than a 4441 or 4432, so I'll try and cash a heart trick which CAN run away on top diamonds.
He can of course have 5 diamonds but I find that more unlikely than a 4441 or 4432, so I'll try and cash a heart trick which CAN run away on top diamonds.
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Posted 2008-November-26, 16:58
whereagles, on Nov 26 2008, 04:54 PM, said:
I'm gonna lead a heart on grounds that the likely holding for opener is a 4-1-4-4 with a 19-20 hcp, or maybe a 4-2-4-3 if he's an overbidder.
He can of course have 5 diamonds but I find that more unlikely than a 4441 or 4432, so I'll try and cash a heart trick which CAN run away on top diamonds.
He can of course have 5 diamonds but I find that more unlikely than a 4441 or 4432, so I'll try and cash a heart trick which CAN run away on top diamonds.
Lol. 4144 with 19-20 hcp would not be overbidding?
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Posted 2008-November-26, 17:00
cherdano, on Nov 27 2008, 12:58 AM, said:
whereagles, on Nov 26 2008, 04:54 PM, said:
I'm gonna lead a heart on grounds that the likely holding for opener is a 4-1-4-4 with a 19-20 hcp, or maybe a 4-2-4-3 if he's an overbidder.
He can of course have 5 diamonds but I find that more unlikely than a 4441 or 4432, so I'll try and cash a heart trick which CAN run away on top diamonds.
He can of course have 5 diamonds but I find that more unlikely than a 4441 or 4432, so I'll try and cash a heart trick which CAN run away on top diamonds.
Lol. 4144 with 19-20 hcp would not be overbidding?
No it wouldn't. It would be insane. (You can count it out.)
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
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Posted 2008-November-26, 17:09
cherdano, on Nov 26 2008, 05:58 PM, said:
whereagles, on Nov 26 2008, 04:54 PM, said:
I'm gonna lead a heart on grounds that the likely holding for opener is a 4-1-4-4 with a 19-20 hcp, or maybe a 4-2-4-3 if he's an overbidder.
He can of course have 5 diamonds but I find that more unlikely than a 4441 or 4432, so I'll try and cash a heart trick which CAN run away on top diamonds.
He can of course have 5 diamonds but I find that more unlikely than a 4441 or 4432, so I'll try and cash a heart trick which CAN run away on top diamonds.
Lol. 4144 with 19-20 hcp would not be overbidding?
It doesn't matter if it would be overbidding or not. It has been found more likely than 5+ diamonds so there is no argument to be made!
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Posted 2008-December-01, 12:53
Full hand:
I'm glad a few posters went with my choice , the club lead.
As can be seen, it wasn't a succés. A heart lead and a heart force when in with the ♣K sinks it.
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I'm glad a few posters went with my choice , the club lead.
As can be seen, it wasn't a succés. A heart lead and a heart force when in with the ♣K sinks it.
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Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
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Posted 2008-December-01, 13:46
I'm tempted to double that but maybe I should check with GIB first.
Can't you ruff the opening heart lead and play a club to the jack?
If north ducks, you cash the diamond queen, go to dummy in trump, ruff a diamond, go to dummy in trump, ruff a diamond and go to dummy in clubs. You give up a club in the end.
If north goes up with the club king and plays a heart you ruff the continuation, pull trump and claim.
Can't you ruff the opening heart lead and play a club to the jack?
If north ducks, you cash the diamond queen, go to dummy in trump, ruff a diamond, go to dummy in trump, ruff a diamond and go to dummy in clubs. You give up a club in the end.
If north goes up with the club king and plays a heart you ruff the continuation, pull trump and claim.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-December-01, 14:08
han, on Dec 1 2008, 09:46 PM, said:
I'm tempted to double that but maybe I should check with GIB first.
Can't you ruff the opening heart lead and play a club to the jack?
If north ducks, you cash the diamond queen, go to dummy in trump, ruff a diamond, go to dummy in trump, ruff a diamond and go to dummy in clubs. You give up a club in the end.
If north goes up with the club king and plays a heart you ruff the continuation, pull trump and claim.
Can't you ruff the opening heart lead and play a club to the jack?
If north ducks, you cash the diamond queen, go to dummy in trump, ruff a diamond, go to dummy in trump, ruff a diamond and go to dummy in clubs. You give up a club in the end.
If north goes up with the club king and plays a heart you ruff the continuation, pull trump and claim.
I think you are right.
Is it the best plan?
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Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
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