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#1 User is offline   Quarky 

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Posted 2008-November-21, 17:01

♠ AKJxx
♥ Q9xxx
♦ J10x
♣


In teams, RHO opens 1♣, you bid Michaels 2♣. Bidding goes:

1♣ - !2♣ - 3♣ - 4♥ - pass

What's your action over pard's raise to 4♥?

What kind of hands can you give your pard's 4H raise? WHat were his other options with other types of hands? I made a mistake reading pard's 4H bid.
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Posted 2008-November-21, 17:06

Although your hand is better than it might be, it's not all that much better. Partner's 4♥ could be on a very good heart fit and essentially nothing else at all. While I wouldn't be surprised to make 12 tricks on some occasions, this is overall a good hand to be passing on.
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Posted 2008-November-21, 17:28

Not enough to bid more. I might regret it, if the hands fit very well. For example:

Qx
AKxx
Axx
xxxx

Could even make a grand.
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Posted 2008-November-21, 17:38

ArtK78, on Nov 21 2008, 06:28 PM, said:

Not enough to bid more.  I might regret it, if the hands fit very well.  For example:

Qx
AKxx
Axx
xxxx

Could even make a grand.

If partner can't diagnose your club shortage with that particular hand, nothing can save you. Partner should know you are singleton/void in clubs already, and should have already taken that into account when bidding 4♥.
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Posted 2008-November-21, 17:40

This looks like a WTP Pass to me.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-November-21, 17:42

effervesce, on Nov 21 2008, 06:38 PM, said:

ArtK78, on Nov 21 2008, 06:28 PM, said:

Not enough to bid more.  I might regret it, if the hands fit very well.  For example:

Qx
AKxx
Axx
xxxx

Could even make a grand.

If partner can't diagnose your club shortage with that particular hand, nothing can save you. Partner should know you are singleton/void in clubs already, and should have already taken that into account when bidding 4♥.

OK. So let me change the example a little.

Qxx
AKxx
Axx
xxx

While partner certainly rates to have club shortness, is this sufficient to bid a slam? Or even try for a slam? We were not given the vulnerability, but if we are not vul, it would not surprise me if partner had:

JTxxx
QJxxx
Kx
x

Even opposit the hand I originally gave as an example, you can't make more than game.
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Posted 2008-November-21, 17:49

Uhm, ArtK, partner can also try for slam.
If he can't try for slam, it is very unlikely we can make one.
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Posted 2008-November-21, 18:32

Pass it is.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-November-23, 13:35

I pass and hope partner can make the contract (I expect him to). I'm not that excited about slam chances...
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