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♠x ♥K98xxxx ♦AQx ♣Qx
1♣ - (Dbl) - 1♥ - (1♠)
2♣ - (2♠) - ?
Support doubles are on.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 02:58
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Posted 2008-November-16, 03:09
4♥
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 03:12
I'd double, followed by 3♥ (forcing).
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Posted 2008-November-16, 09:56
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We are all connected to each other biologically, to the Earth chemically, and to the rest of the universe atomically.
We're in the universe, and the universe is in us.
We are all connected to each other biologically, to the Earth chemically, and to the rest of the universe atomically.
We're in the universe, and the universe is in us.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 11:33
4♥, can be wrong but I am going to insist on hearts with seven of them.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 11:49
I'll take Edmunte's approach: x and 3♥.
I think if you ran a sim, pard's average heart length is less than 1.5.
I think if you ran a sim, pard's average heart length is less than 1.5.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 11:59
What was 2H, 3H last round? What have I denied holding by not using one of them? Surely good players don't believe in weak preempts there?
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Posted 2008-November-16, 13:12
1♣ dbl... often dbl means majors...
so I see no reason to bid now 4♥, also admitting this to be a near normal bid.
I prefer dbl + 3♥... just in case we can find some others contracts...
- such as 3NT (why not? ♠Kxx ♥x ♦Kxx ♣AKJxxx),
- such as 5♣ (♠xxx ♥ x ♦Kxx ♣AKJxxx) or, dreaming beautiffuly,
- such as 6 ♣ with some slight variations (♠Axx ♥x ♦Kxx ♣ARJxxx).
And don't tell me with last hand you would have bid 3♣ in complete misfit...
Yes I know... some leads can beat us... but nobody is perfect...
specifically me, finding correct examples...
so I see no reason to bid now 4♥, also admitting this to be a near normal bid.
I prefer dbl + 3♥... just in case we can find some others contracts...
- such as 3NT (why not? ♠Kxx ♥x ♦Kxx ♣AKJxxx),
- such as 5♣ (♠xxx ♥ x ♦Kxx ♣AKJxxx) or, dreaming beautiffuly,
- such as 6 ♣ with some slight variations (♠Axx ♥x ♦Kxx ♣ARJxxx).
And don't tell me with last hand you would have bid 3♣ in complete misfit...
Yes I know... some leads can beat us... but nobody is perfect...
specifically me, finding correct examples...
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Posted 2008-November-16, 13:15
I'll bid 3♥. Been in situations like this before and the 4♥ alternative didn't work so well at the time.
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Posted 2008-November-16, 18:51
3D, 4H deserve major punishement. Over 3D partner can bid 3H with 2. If he doesnt have 2H 5C will play at least as good as 4H.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2008-November-17, 10:19
2♣ denied 3-card support I'd guess, although this is not mentioned in the OP.
I'd not go looking for 4♥ here, trumps rate to split unevenly after the t/o double. Partner will often have some length in spades here, so 5♣ doesnt rate to be too good either. 3NT is on if we have six club tricks, a spade stopper and ♦K onside (or with partner). I've got no good bid, without GF values. I'd try 3♣ for now, and see if I get another chance.
I'd not go looking for 4♥ here, trumps rate to split unevenly after the t/o double. Partner will often have some length in spades here, so 5♣ doesnt rate to be too good either. 3NT is on if we have six club tricks, a spade stopper and ♦K onside (or with partner). I've got no good bid, without GF values. I'd try 3♣ for now, and see if I get another chance.
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Posted 2008-November-17, 11:56
I think 4H is still the most likely game by far. Even if partner has a singleton heart it is quite likely that LHO has 3 including the ace. 4H it is.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-November-17, 14:55
3♥ for me. Pard is still there and can raise with 1.5 good Hearts.
The question isn't really 'are we likely to make 4♥' but instead 'are we likely to make 4♥ if pard passes 3♥' ?
The question isn't really 'are we likely to make 4♥' but instead 'are we likely to make 4♥ if pard passes 3♥' ?
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Posted 2008-November-17, 15:59
RichMor, on Nov 17 2008, 03:55 PM, said:
3♥ for me. Pard is still there and can raise with 1.5 good Hearts.
It's unfortunate. In my experience when my partner gets dealt half a card, the director usually deems the board fouled.
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Posted 2008-November-17, 16:38
I think I'd just bid 4♥.
I kind of like the X...3♥ approach but our hand isn't good in NT and we just have to ruff too many of partner's spades in 5♣.
I kind of like the X...3♥ approach but our hand isn't good in NT and we just have to ruff too many of partner's spades in 5♣.
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Posted 2008-November-17, 18:07
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I think 4H is still the most likely game by far. Even if partner has a singleton heart it is quite likely that LHO has 3 including the ace. 4H it is.
Why do you want to be in 4H if partner hold
xxx
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Kx
AKxxxxx
Kxx
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AKxxxxx
xxx
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Kxx
AKJTxx
etc.
and im even not telling cases where partner is void.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2008-November-17, 21:32
Thank you for giving me 10-counts with a singleton support, you are most generous.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-November-18, 00:04
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Thank you for giving me 10-counts with a singleton support, you are most generous
With a doubleton ♥ partner will be please to bid 3H over 3D. Unless holding 2 spades stoppers.
As for 10 counts ive wanted to showed the possible core of the hands since the soft values wont hold there weight here.
Stiff Q or J of H pretty useless. Qxx or Jxx ♠ useless also. J of D will probably only have value if supported by the T.
Im surprised that im the only 1 that bid 3D here, i really believe that this bid is the only 1 here.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2008-November-18, 01:24
benlessard, on Nov 18 2008, 12:04 AM, said:
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Thank you for giving me 10-counts with a singleton support, you are most generous
With a doubleton ♥ partner will be please to bid 3H over 3D. Unless holding 2 spades stoppers.
As for 10 counts ive wanted to showed the possible core of the hands since the soft values wont hold there weight here.
Stiff Q or J of H pretty useless. Qxx or Jxx ♠ useless also. J of D will probably only have value if supported by the T.
Im surprised that im the only 1 that bid 3D here, i really believe that this bid is the only 1 here.
3♦ shows diamonds, you know... 3♥ over 3♦ would typically show Hx for me, with xx I would avoid it (especially if my diamond support is better than my heart support).
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Posted 2008-November-18, 02:47
Tough luck for you then.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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