[awm]

Assume you open 1NT and partner bids 2♦ transfer to hearts. Likely the notrump range doesn't matter all that much, but assume it's something reasonably strong like 15-17 or 14-16. Obviously this is a matter of partnership style, so I'm asking what your preferred style is.

[rogerclee]

I prefer to only super accept with very good hands and 4+ trumps.

[maggieb]

rogerclee, on Nov 7 2008, 12:54 AM, said:

I prefer to only super accept with very good hands and 4+ trumps.

same

[655321]

I have a strong preference for the style where opener must superaccept every time they have 4 card support (and never with only 3 cards). The only exception I sometimes play is that after a 4th seat 1NT, when both opponents have already passed, the superaccept is not quite mandatory.

I don't have any preferred methods of superaccepting (whether to show doubletons, or suits without values, or suits with values, etc).

[mike777]

awm, on Nov 7 2008, 12:52 AM, said:

Assume you open 1NT and partner bids 2♦ transfer to hearts. Likely the notrump range doesn't matter all that much, but assume it's something reasonably strong like 15-17 or 14-16. Obviously this is a matter of partnership style, so I'm asking what your preferred style is.

Agree this is a neverending debate but a good one.


I will basically super accept with 4 card support...minimum and no useful doubleton.....I have bid to show this........

This is due to LOTT(Marty Bergen..Barry Crane) and 9 trumps influence.

edit

Perhaps I should add this is in 14-16 context..so one more reason to want to shut out opponents.......

..Note this is in keeping with make one bid and get out with minimum hand type bidding....closer to Barry Crane than Al Roth. Both styles have plus and minus.

[Cascade]

Especially vulnerable i have been -200 and -300 too many times so I only super-accept with good maximums and four trumps.

[gwnn]

Like a third of all hands with from the subset "maximum, 4 cards, but not 4333" - only the very good ones. It may have Ax or Jx in a suit.

[dicklont]

I super accept only with four trumps and maximum values.

Some partnerships in my club can super accept in two manners.
1NT - 2♦ - 3♥ shows four trumps
1NT - 2♦ - 2♠/3♣/3♦ shows four trumps, maximum hand and the A and/or K in the suit

This makes sense to me.

[mike777]

ok I guess I am only one who super accepts with minimum or non max.........btw I never seem to have max....only mini or nonmax......but ok....

you other guys are great you always have max...as oppossed to mini or nonmax(average)......but ok.....

1) non max
2) average
3) max

[Gerben42]

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Any time I have four trumps and not 4333

I have different bids for min. and max. The question if one should have other bids than 3M and 2NT for these to show some feature is a different question altogether. My opinion is not to bother.

[Flameous]

With 15-17 I want to have a good hand with 4 trumps to accept. Doesn't have to be max points but good controls. NV I play 10-12NT and then I super accept with any 4 card support in order to pre-empt opps.

[helene_t]

As a Larry Cohen zealot, I used to superaccept everytime I had four trumps. I have become a little more conservative lately. Factors that could cause me not to superaccept with a minimum:
- Fourth seat opening
- Our suit is spades
- Good defense against spades
- Soft values

[jdonn]

Remember even if you have 9 trumps the opponents don't know it and have to worry you have as few as 7, so there is a lot less reason to demand the three level with 9 trumps as on auctions starting with a suit. The point of superaccepting is not competitive, it's to reach a game you could miss if you bid 2, so only superaccept if you feel that is likely to happen.

[helene_t]

Right, it is actually quite rare that opps balance after a completed transfer.

[Edmunte1]

I superaccept also with good minimum hands with lots of controls.

[PrecisionL]

Super accept only with AKxx or KQxx in trumps AND maximum (Aces and Kings) AND a doubleton (for the extra trick).

[kenrexford]

I'd occasionally super-accept by bidding 2NT with HHx in trumps and primes outside.

I do not randomly super-accept with a "tactical mini-maximum." However, I will super-accept with a primed minimum if I have a tactically-relevant doubleton. The classic example is 2434/2443, where I expect a likelihood of spade intervention. Or, with a doubleton in a shown suit (RHO doubles the transfer and I have xx in diamonds).

[FrancesHinden]

mike777, on Nov 7 2008, 09:52 AM, said:

ok I guess I am only one who super accepts with minimum or non max.........btw I never seem to have max....only mini or nonmax......but ok....

you other guys are great you always have max...as oppossed to mini or nonmax(average)......but ok.....

1) non max
2) average
3) max

Once we know of a 9-card fit, it's quite hard to have a minimum.

I would say I super-accept with 4 trumps and a non-minimum, but (playing 15-17 NT), none of these is a minimum:

AKxx
AJxx
Kxx
xx

Kx
QJxx
AK109x
Jx

Axx
Kxxx
Axx
Axx


I would have no idea if I had a 'tactical mini-maximum'

The NT range is relevant, as others have said, if I have opened a mini I super-accept on most hands with four trumps, particularly in hearts (in that position I play that jumping to 3H shows minimum HCP, other breaks show a good hand).

[kenrexford]

FrancesHinden, on Nov 7 2008, 08:42 AM, said:

I would have no idea if I had a 'tactical mini-maximum'

A tactical mini-maximum is much different from a tactically unsound maxi-minimum, of course.

[mikeh]

I super accept only with a near max with 4 trump... I agree with Frances that some 15s become near maxs.. so this isn't a walter the walrus exercise.

As for superaccepting with all 4 card hands... this has a number of drawbacks, including:

1. You now need a way to distinguish super-accepts... and whatever method you use will sometimes give more help to the defence than to partner. If you don't distinguish, then partner is left guessing, not only on game decisions but also on slam decisions.

2. You will get too high on too many hands.. going -100 against 110 is simply throwing imps away for little reason... when you can make game on your minimum, partner will often (usually?) be able to bid again.

3. The opps don't always balance, and, as Josh points out, they can't know your total trump length after you complete the transfer at the 2-level... unless, of course, you always super accept with 4... and if you do, then I assume that you alert the simple acceptance... 'denies 4 trump'