Driving to the 5 level with no further consultation with partner after a non-specific limit raise should happen so rarely that it shouldn't be discussed I think (admittedly it helps to know what are your partnership's 2 level openers' criteria).
How many hearts (Acol style)
#41
Posted 2008-November-14, 18:20
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
George Carlin
George Carlin
#42
Posted 2008-November-14, 23:43
Thanks. I was trying to distinguish 2/1 with other unlimited opener systems (the thread itself is acol-related). What you say makes some sense when contrasting with precision. That said, I suspect that most instances of going down in 5 result from a clear error of judgement more than systemic weakness.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
s
t
r-m
nd
ing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
s
t
r-m
nd
ing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees."Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
#43
Posted 2008-November-15, 00:52
mikestar, on Nov 14 2008, 05:19 PM, said:
Glad to. The #1 thing that can go wrong by making the limit raise is that partner bids 4♥ off one. The #2 thing is that partner passes and 3♥ is down one. Neither of these contingencies are affected by the system choice.
Not true. (Hint: look at the thread title, or maybe even the post that started this thread.)
In fact, I wonder how many of the posters ignored how playing Acol should influence this decision. (I have no idea, that's why I didn't post...)
The easiest way to count losers is to line up the people who talk about loser count, and count them. -Kieran Dyke

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