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2 or 1..or Pass?

Poll: What do you open? (46 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you open?

  1. 1H (28 votes [60.87%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.87%

  2. 2D (multi) (9 votes [19.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.57%

  3. Pass (9 votes [19.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.57%

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#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2008-October-11, 13:10

Scoring: IMP

What do you open? (open weak goes via 2D multi).
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Posted 2008-October-11, 14:15

1♥. Considered as a weak two, the hand has four flaws: each ace, the poor suit, and its being too strong.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-October-11, 14:45

1♥. If this hand was a 6♥(322) I would pass.
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Posted 2008-October-11, 15:37

I don't like preempts with 2 Aces, but I'm going to make an exception for this one.
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Posted 2008-October-11, 18:54

I misclicked the vote, meant to say 1H but clicked on the multi - in case anyone's counting votes :)
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Posted 2008-October-11, 21:48

Can't really answer without knowing whom I'm playing with. I know I sound like mike777 when I say this and I hate it, but this hand is right on the edge and with some partners I'm just not going to open 1H.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-October-11, 22:05

I open 1♥ no matter who I am playing with.
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Posted 2008-October-12, 06:24

1♥ or 2♦, depending on agreements with my particular partner at the time.
Undiscussed: 1♥
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Posted 2008-October-12, 09:15

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2D!-4C!
4D!-4H
2D=multi
4C=bid your M in transfer
4D=transfer H
making +3 when ♥K was singleton.
...I don't think it is possible to reach 6H after opening weak.
(The other table opened 1H and reached 6H)
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Posted 2008-October-12, 09:31



1♥ - 1♠
2♥ - 3NT

Was a hopeless contract. After opening 2♥, the bad game was avoided. Would you like one where pass is best also?
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Posted 2008-October-12, 12:18

This looks like a 1♥ opener to me.
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Posted 2008-October-12, 12:19

Hi,

I would go with either Pass or 1H.

Because of the ten of hearts, 1H it is, but it is
close.

In the end it comes down to partnership
agreements.

With kind regards
Marlowe
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Posted 2008-October-14, 07:35

Free, on Oct 11 2008, 10:37 PM, said:

I don't like preempts with 2 Aces, but I'm going to make an exception for this one.

I don't like preempts with 2 Aces and this one is easier as this is too strong for 2♥

1♥
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Posted 2008-October-14, 12:50

It's worth noting that opposite Axxx Axxx KQx KQ there are a lot of weak two bids that make slam:

x
Kxxxxx
Axx
xxx

Kxx
KJxxxx
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JTxx

xx
KQxxxx
Ax
xxx

Obviously these are well-fitting hands and tend to be maximums, but it's easy to imagine opener with ♥K and a minor suit ace, and some useful shape. I think it's wimpy of responder to just give up rather than making some of the many slam-tries available below the level of game. I could see some auction like 2♦ multi - 2NT asking - whatever shows a maximum with hearts - cuebid and basically opener takes over and forces to slam.
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Posted 2008-October-14, 16:53

awm, on Oct 14 2008, 08:50 PM, said:

It's worth noting that opposite Axxx Axxx KQx KQ there are a lot of weak two bids that make slam:

x
Kxxxxx
Axx
xxx

Kxx
KJxxxx
-
JTxx

xx
KQxxxx
Ax
xxx

Obviously these are well-fitting hands and tend to be maximums, but it's easy to imagine opener with ♥K and a minor suit ace, and some useful shape. I think it's wimpy of responder to just give up rather than making some of the many slam-tries available below the level of game. I could see some auction like 2♦ multi - 2NT asking - whatever shows a maximum with hearts - cuebid and basically opener takes over and forces to slam.

I took al blame on me for opening 2D..maybe I can blame partner after all :)
If it starts:
2♦-2NT
3♠-4♣
 
2♦=multi
2NT=asking
3♠=max with ♥
4♣=control
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