[InTime]

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The Bidding:
West...North...East... South
1D*....Pass.....1H......1S
2C**..2D........2S......Pass
3C......Pass.....3H......Pass
?

* Precision
** Can be 5-4

The question is if 3H is forcing in this sequence?
West elected to pass on this hand.

[jdonn]

3♥ is forcing, invitational bids 3♥ over 2♦.

[DrTodd13]

For me, 2♥ is weak and to play, 3♥ is invite and cue-bidding first and then bidding 3♥ would be forcing.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

What was 2D, what was 2S?

Not playing Precision, but 3H certainly sounds forcing,
an inv. hand with 6 hearts, could have been bid 3H
direct without going via the cue.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[helene_t]

Hi InTime, welcome to the forum!

Agree with others that 3♥ is forcing.

[jdonn]

I should also mention, for a first time poster, nice formatting on the auction! Very easy to read.

[cherdano]

DrTodd13, on Oct 7 2008, 04:02 PM, said:

For me, 2♥ is weak and to play, 3♥ is invite and cue-bidding first and then bidding 3♥ would be forcing.

Agree.

[han]

Let me also use this opportunity to agree with DrTodd.

[SoTired]

3H is forcing because 2S created a game-force

[InTime]

jdonn, on Oct 7 2008, 05:49 PM, said:

I should also mention, for a first time poster, nice formatting on the auction! Very easy to read.

Thanks for all the nice comments and quick replies from everybody. As first time poster I am really impressed and appreciate it all.

[InTime]

P_Marlowe, on Oct 7 2008, 05:29 PM, said:

Hi,

What was 2D, what was 2S?

Not playing Precision, but 3H certainly sounds forcing,
an inv. hand with 6 hearts, could have been bid 3H
direct without going via the cue.

With kind regards
Marlowe

According to me, 2D was a suit because 1D in Precision does not necessarily promise diamonds. 2S was asking for a spade stop. After the 3H (forcing), opener can now still bid 3NT with no tolerance for hearts - already denied a spade stop by bidding 3C. This leaves it to responder to decide the contract. Anyway, 3NT was the better contract.

[gwnn]

I agree with everybody, except I'm not sure 2♠ created a GF. I would tend to think opener's 2NT rebid is NF and maybe 3m also (i.e. responder would like to compete in something but is not sure what minors opener has).

[P_Marlowe]

InTime, on Oct 8 2008, 03:39 AM, said:

P_Marlowe, on Oct 7 2008, 05:29 PM, said:

Hi,

What was 2D, what was 2S?

Not playing Precision, but 3H certainly sounds forcing,
an inv. hand with 6 hearts, could have been bid 3H
direct without going via the cue.

With kind regards
Marlowe

According to me, 2D was a suit because 1D in Precision does not necessarily promise diamonds. 2S was asking for a spade stop. After the 3H (forcing), opener can now still bid 3NT with no tolerance for hearts - already denied a spade stop by bidding 3C. This leaves it to responder to decide the contract. Anyway, 3NT was the better contract.

This argument is fine, ... if you had bid direct 2D over 1D,
but after 2C, which was alerted as 5-4 in the minors, you are
bidding their suit, which could even be a 5 carder.

If this is natural or not is up to you, but for me bidding
their suit is always artificial, unless I have specifically
discussed it.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[InTime]

gwnn, on Oct 8 2008, 06:53 AM, said:

I agree with everybody, except I'm not sure 2♠ created a GF. I would tend to think opener's 2NT rebid is NF and maybe 3m also (i.e. responder would like to compete in something but is not sure what minors opener has).

I think that 2♠ initially does not create a game force. But, I think what everybody is saying that bidding 3♥ after the 2♠ created a GF.

[gwnn]

Yep 2♠ and then 3♥ is clearly a GF. I should have qouted the post I was partially disagreeing with

SoTired said:

3H is forcing because 2S created a game-force