awm, on Oct 6 2008, 04:20 PM, said:
1. Perhaps dburn's point is that we could play 2♣ relay over 1M (for example). This has the advantage of leading to pretty accurate auctions. The main reason people don't play it (as best I can tell) is that it requires a lot of artificial followups and a lot of memory work.
2. But if playing 2/1 doesn't let you get to the right contract without a similar amount of artificiality and memorization, we might as well all switch to 2♣ relay and free up our other 2/1 responses for invitational hands (or some artificial meaning like strong raises).
2. But if playing 2/1 doesn't let you get to the right contract without a similar amount of artificiality and memorization, we might as well all switch to 2♣ relay and free up our other 2/1 responses for invitational hands (or some artificial meaning like strong raises).
1. Those 2♣ exist in 4-card major systems and are called "monk relay". It's a nice gadget, which has even greater potential in 5-card major systems. Agree the following artificiality is a bit annoying, though.
2. I believe we can play 2/1 without a bucketload of gadgets. See above post. By the way, freeing up 2x (>♣)for invitational hands doesn't work too well. Been there before and didn't like it much...

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