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#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2008-October-06, 07:06

1S-2H
4C
Italians had this bidding and according to vugraph presenter 4C showed a void.
I asked how do splinter with a singleton and he responded that they can't show that. That was surprising to me because I would think that singleton happens much more often then void. (...maybe it is easier for them to show the void later.?)
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Posted 2008-October-06, 08:58

duh forget it
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Posted 2008-October-06, 11:12

For me this splinter shows a void, as does 1M-4m, 1m-3M etc.
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Posted 2008-October-06, 11:16

skaeran, on Oct 6 2008, 12:12 PM, said:

For me this splinter shows a void, as does 1M-4m, 1m-3M etc.

But do you have another way to show a singleton? If so then I'm sure it all works very well, but if not then I wouldn't want to give up the singleton in exchange for the far more rare void.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2008-October-06, 11:19

I play it as showing a singleton. When you see the Italians let them know they can have the notes if they wonder how this works.
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Posted 2008-October-06, 23:48

I actually thought this one too when it happened.
For me this shows singleton or void or sometimes even singleton honor. This is mostly because 2 over 1 takes away so much space that there's no chance to have different sequences to show void.

After 1 and 1 I have 3 and 3NT to show void splinters respectively.
In 1 - 1 sequences I have Gazilli available so there are ways to show everything you can possibly imagine in hand.
Except that one time when I had 5611 and couldn't splinter in both minors :)
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Posted 2008-October-07, 10:40

jdonn, on Oct 6 2008, 07:16 PM, said:

skaeran, on Oct 6 2008, 12:12 PM, said:

For me this splinter shows a void, as does 1M-4m, 1m-3M etc.

But do you have another way to show a singleton? If so then I'm sure it all works very well, but if not then I wouldn't want to give up the singleton in exchange for the far more rare void.

Yes, I do have other methods to show a singleton, directly or later, depending on strength. Not always, but most of the time.
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