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Partner opens 1♣ (standard). RHO bids 1♥ and you bid 1♠ showing 5+♠.
LHO bids 3♥ (weak, preemptive) and partner raises to 4♠.
Try for slam or pass?
Slam or Game?
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Posted 2008-September-30, 01:45
Partner opens 1♣ (standard). RHO bids 1♥ and you bid 1♠ showing 5+♠.
LHO bids 3♥ (weak, preemptive) and partner raises to 4♠.
Try for slam or pass?
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Posted 2008-September-30, 01:47
Pass.
Partner could have bid 4♥ to show a really good raise.
Partner could have bid 4♥ to show a really good raise.
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Posted 2008-September-30, 06:40
What should partner do with:
KJxx
xxx
KQx
AKQx
KJxx
xxx
KQx
AKQx
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2008-September-30, 07:04
Hanoi5, on Sep 30 2008, 01:40 PM, said:
What should partner do with:
KJxx
xxx
KQx
AKQx
KJxx
xxx
KQx
AKQx
i) call the director
ii) when he's down to 13 cards, bid 4H
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Posted 2008-September-30, 07:19
Pass. Hope we make it. Partner is under some pressure to raise to game with a hand that would have bid about two and a half spades if his RHO had not pre-empted. We won't make a slam, or even the five level, facing some of those hands.
♠KJxx ♥xx ♦Ax ♣AQxxx
is a possible hand for partner, and not even a minimum.
♠KJxx ♥xx ♦Ax ♣AQxxx
is a possible hand for partner, and not even a minimum.
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Posted 2008-September-30, 07:50
Clear pass for me. 4♠ is not particularly strong after the pre-empt. A little more than minimum if rather balanced, alternatively a minimum with 4-6 shape. 4♥ would have shown a full value raise to game.
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Posted 2008-September-30, 08:03
Pass rather clear to my thoughts, this is not even close to bid again to me.
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Posted 2008-September-30, 08:23
This is a wtp pass
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Posted 2008-September-30, 10:26
You have seven losers. Partner needs about six covers, therefore, to make slam, although a finesse might yield an anti-percentage make.
You need fast covers and have no bolsters, so his cover requirements will be pure.
If he had that hand, he'd cue 4♥ as a power raise (showing nothing in particular in hearts).
You need fast covers and have no bolsters, so his cover requirements will be pure.
If he had that hand, he'd cue 4♥ as a power raise (showing nothing in particular in hearts).
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Posted 2008-September-30, 10:48
Walddk, on Sep 30 2008, 07:50 AM, said:
Clear pass for me. 4♠ is not particularly strong after the pre-empt. A little more than minimum if rather balanced, alternatively a minimum with 4-6 shape. 4♥ would have shown a full value raise to game.
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I agree with pass, but I disagree with your description of 4♠. I think a raise to 3♠ already shows a little more than a little minimum, 4♠ should have serious extras.
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Posted 2008-September-30, 10:54
I think of the cuebid as a normal 'good' raise to 3♠ or better, and 4♠ as less than that. That would make this a clear pass.
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Posted 2008-September-30, 11:02
3♠ = 4 spades and a sound opening hand.
4♠ = a hand that would have bid 1m-1♠-3♠
4♥ = something more.
4♠ = a hand that would have bid 1m-1♠-3♠
4♥ = something more.
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Posted 2008-September-30, 11:08
jdonn, on Sep 30 2008, 10:54 AM, said:
I think of the cuebid as a normal 'good' raise to 3♠ or better, and 4♠ as less than that. That would make this a clear pass.
So you use both 3♠ and 4♠ for hands that would bid 2♠ without interference? That doesn't seem right to me.
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Posted 2008-September-30, 13:45
Pretty clear pass IMO. Might make slam on a lucky day, but I think pard would bid 4♥ on all hands where slam is a good proposition.
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Posted 2008-September-30, 17:35
So why would partner bid 4♠ on a hand that is not even worth 3♠ without interference? This seems like a way to get too high.
I would've assumed something more like:
Pass with a bad 2♠ bid
3♠ = a good 2♠ or bad 3♠ bid without interference
4♠ = a good 3♠ bid without interference
4♥ = a GF without interference, or better
I would've assumed something more like:
Pass with a bad 2♠ bid
3♠ = a good 2♠ or bad 3♠ bid without interference
4♠ = a good 3♠ bid without interference
4♥ = a GF without interference, or better
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Posted 2008-September-30, 18:09
Partner didn't bid 4♥. Also, any finesse you need to make slam is likely to be badly placed, you have no tenaces. The overcaller is sitting over partner where there might be tenaces.
Easy pass.
Sean
Easy pass.
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Posted 2008-September-30, 19:24
I agree with everyone that we have a comfortable pass of 4♠.
I am surprised, though, that it looks like we will get to play here. With so many spades I expected a 5♥ bid from someone, but unless the preemptor bids again, we have bought the hand in 4♠.
I am surprised, though, that it looks like we will get to play here. With so many spades I expected a 5♥ bid from someone, but unless the preemptor bids again, we have bought the hand in 4♠.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-September-30, 19:34
awm, on Sep 30 2008, 05:35 PM, said:
So why would partner bid 4♠ on a hand that is not even worth 3♠ without interference? This seems like a way to get too high.
I would've assumed something more like:
Pass with a bad 2♠ bid
3♠ = a good 2♠ or bad 3♠ bid without interference
4♠ = a good 3♠ bid without interference
4♥ = a GF without interference, or better
I would've assumed something more like:
Pass with a bad 2♠ bid
3♠ = a good 2♠ or bad 3♠ bid without interference
4♠ = a good 3♠ bid without interference
4♥ = a GF without interference, or better
Me too.
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Posted 2008-September-30, 20:55
Pass
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Posted 2008-September-30, 22:13
pclayton, on Sep 30 2008, 12:02 PM, said:
3♠ = 4 spades and a sound opening hand.
4♠ = a hand that would have bid 1m-1♠-3♠
4♥ = something more.
4♠ = a hand that would have bid 1m-1♠-3♠
4♥ = something more.
Me too.
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