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♠AJx ♥Tx ♦Ax ♣AKxxxx
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Is This a 1NT Opener?
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Posted 2008-September-25, 18:31
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Posted 2008-September-25, 18:35
1C then 3C. I don't have strong convictions that this is better than opening 1N, but with such a suit-oriented hand it is 100% clear for me to open 1C.
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Posted 2008-September-25, 18:38
yes 1nt...prefer to try and have a stiff or void if I am going to open and jump rebid a minor.
As a side note playing 14-16 nt I think this is too good to open 1nt so I plan to open one club and rebid 3c over 1s response but 2nt(17) over 1h response.
As a side note playing 14-16 nt I think this is too good to open 1nt so I plan to open one club and rebid 3c over 1s response but 2nt(17) over 1h response.
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Posted 2008-September-25, 18:39
1NT opener for me. The shape isn't great for 1♣ then 3♣, and at MPs you don't aim for 5♣ unless you absolutely have to.
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Posted 2008-September-25, 18:39
Bid Like Zia, Part 3: 1♣, then 1♠ over a red suit response?!
1♣ then 3♣ for me, also. Certainly wouldn't complain if partner opened 1NT.
1♣ then 3♣ for me, also. Certainly wouldn't complain if partner opened 1NT.
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C. It's the nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms.
IV: ace 333: pot should be game, idk
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Posted 2008-September-25, 19:08
1NT. I like to open 1NT as often as I can.
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Posted 2008-September-25, 19:19
IMO this hand is too strong for 1NT.
I kind of like 1C then 2NT, but hard to be too critical of 1C-3C which is surely the "textbook" way to bid this hand.
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I kind of like 1C then 2NT, but hard to be too critical of 1C-3C which is surely the "textbook" way to bid this hand.
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Posted 2008-September-25, 20:07
fred, on Sep 26 2008, 02:19 AM, said:
IMO this hand is too strong for 1NT.
I kind of like 1C then 2NT, but hard to be too critical of 1C-3C which is surely the "textbook" way to bid this hand.
I kind of like 1C then 2NT, but hard to be too critical of 1C-3C which is surely the "textbook" way to bid this hand.
Agreed, can't think of anything else to say.
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Posted 2008-September-25, 22:23
MickyB, on Sep 25 2008, 09:07 PM, said:
fred, on Sep 26 2008, 02:19 AM, said:
IMO this hand is too strong for 1NT.
I kind of like 1C then 2NT, but hard to be too critical of 1C-3C which is surely the "textbook" way to bid this hand.
I kind of like 1C then 2NT, but hard to be too critical of 1C-3C which is surely the "textbook" way to bid this hand.
Agreed, can't think of anything else to say.
I agree also, but I do have something to say (of course).
My initial reaction was, "1♣, and then decide whether to bid 2NT or 3♣ depending on the developments."
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Posted 2008-September-25, 23:30
This hand is definitely too strong for 1NT.
I'll open 1♣, planning to rebid 2NT over 1♦ or 1♠ (using transfer responses), 1♠ over 1♥ and show my strength next round.
I'll open 1♣, planning to rebid 2NT over 1♦ or 1♠ (using transfer responses), 1♠ over 1♥ and show my strength next round.
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Posted 2008-September-26, 00:49
1C followed by 3C.
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Posted 2008-September-26, 03:30
Agree with Harald, this is a good hand for T-Walsh if partner has spades. Not playing T-Walsh make it more attractive to open 1NT, if one doesn't think the hand is too strong for that.
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Posted 2008-September-26, 03:51
This is easy for anyone playing the Proper System (ACOL)
1♣ intending to show strength next time
Acol is such an Easy game
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Posted 2008-September-26, 06:41
Since this is MP, wont the field be in 1C - 3C?
So isnt that the bidding you want to follow?
Also, I want pard to declare, with the heart, and perhaps second Dime stoppers.
If pard has Qxx in Dimes, and Kxx in hearts, along with a few Clubs, he should declare.
So isnt that the bidding you want to follow?
Also, I want pard to declare, with the heart, and perhaps second Dime stoppers.
If pard has Qxx in Dimes, and Kxx in hearts, along with a few Clubs, he should declare.
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Posted 2008-September-26, 08:13
skaeran, on Sep 26 2008, 12:30 AM, said:
1♠ over 1♥
Yay!
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C. It's the nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms.
IV: ace 333: pot should be game, idk
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Call me Desdinova...Eternal Light
C. It's the nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms.
IV: ace 333: pot should be game, idk
e: "Maybe God remembered how cute you were as a carrot."
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Posted 2008-September-26, 09:02
fred, on Sep 25 2008, 05:19 PM, said:
IMO this hand is too strong for 1NT.
I kind of like 1C then 2NT, but hard to be too critical of 1C-3C which is surely the "textbook" way to bid this hand.
Fred Gitelman
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I kind of like 1C then 2NT, but hard to be too critical of 1C-3C which is surely the "textbook" way to bid this hand.
Fred Gitelman
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Right on. Anyone that calls this a balanced 15-17 needs a remedial lesson in basic hand evaluation.
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Posted 2008-September-26, 09:20
Lobowolf, on Sep 26 2008, 09:13 AM, said:
skaeran, on Sep 26 2008, 12:30 AM, said:
1♠ over 1♥
Yay!
You are aware he specified "playing transfer responses", right?
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Posted 2008-September-26, 09:38
jdonn, on Sep 26 2008, 10:20 AM, said:
Lobowolf, on Sep 26 2008, 09:13 AM, said:
skaeran, on Sep 26 2008, 12:30 AM, said:
1♠ over 1♥
Yay!
You are aware he specified "playing transfer responses", right?
Damn. I missed that. I was having such a nice Friday, too.
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C. It's the nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms.
IV: ace 333: pot should be game, idk
e: "Maybe God remembered how cute you were as a carrot."
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C. It's the nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms.
IV: ace 333: pot should be game, idk
e: "Maybe God remembered how cute you were as a carrot."
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Posted 2008-September-26, 11:32
Lobowolf, on Sep 26 2008, 05:38 PM, said:
jdonn, on Sep 26 2008, 10:20 AM, said:
Lobowolf, on Sep 26 2008, 09:13 AM, said:
skaeran, on Sep 26 2008, 12:30 AM, said:
1♠ over 1♥
Yay!
You are aware he specified "playing transfer responses", right?
Damn. I missed that. I was having such a nice Friday, too.
Well, don't let such a small thing destroy your day then! Have a nice weekend!
Kind regards,
Harald
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Posted 2008-September-26, 12:50
pclayton, on Sep 26 2008, 08:02 AM, said:
Anyone that calls this a balanced 15-17 needs a remedial lesson in basic hand evaluation.
This hand is from a Challenge the Champs bidding contest. I decided to use the "normal" 1♣ then 3♣ sequence for a zero (I was surprised by this score!). Partner has ♠Qxx ♥K9x ♦Q9xxxx ♣x.
Of the two pairs in the challenge, one plays strong club, so they had a huge system gain: 1♣-1♦; 2♣-2♦ to the top spot. Elahmady and Sadek was the other pair, playing a fairly natural system. He opened 1♣ and rebid 2♣! This got them to 3♦, the next best spot.
Kokish recommends opening 1NT (albeit with a question mark) with this hand in his BWS auction.